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john_l
07-08-2008, 08:18 PM
Question for the cabinet makers here... I have a project where I am building cabinets/counters of black 2 sided melamine and it will all need to be edgebanded.

I want this to yield a durable edge. It is to be installed in a retail environment. I have seen a thicker black plastic type of glue-on edgeband but don't know what it is called or where to get it. It almost feels like PVC, or a "soft" plastic,.. you can dig your finger nail into it. Anyway, I bought a roll of standard black edgeband that just snaps if you fold it.. this doesnt look like what I want.

I also have considered T moulding, which is great for durability, but is difficult to butt join and get it to look right at intersections (in my past experiences anyway).

Any tips appreciated.

John

marcus1234
07-08-2008, 09:06 PM
John,

What you want is 3mm PVC edgebanding.

However, It's very difficult to apply & trim without a very expensive edgebander.

I would suggest trying to find a local cabinet shop that has an edgebander capable of 3mm & getting them to run the parts for you. Many shops offer this service and charge by the lineal foot.

Also, black is a pretty common color. They may already have some they could sell you and save you from having to buy a whole roll.

If you do need to buy a whole roll, you can get the edgebanding at 800-736-0997.

Hope that helps.

cabnet636
07-08-2008, 10:10 PM
you can get edgebanding overnighted from several locations around the nation, what part of the country are you in

try tape ease
http://www.tapeease.com/thickpvc.htm

jim mcgrew

john_l
07-08-2008, 10:44 PM
I am in Southern PA. just above the Maryland state line. Thanks to James for the link and thanks Marcus for the clarification.

I do belive PVC is what I want. I will have to explore if it can be used for my situation or not. I actually have rabbeted joints (90 degree intersections) that will need to be edgebanded. I assumed the banding will carry over the rabbeted area and have already cut the parts so I guess prebanding it is out now.

I have seen peel and stick tapes out there.. has anyone ever used these for flakeboard melamine? I'm kinda skeptical of those... and if they are the cheaper quality band, they wont work for this anyway.

Still open for any tips from the wise... and many many thanks to those that have responded.

John

gene
07-08-2008, 10:55 PM
John
Dont rule out the self adhesive banding yet. Fastcap makes a peel and stick banding that is very good. Wurth wood group has distribution centers close to you . Call greenville store and ask for a location near you @ 18008689669 , they can help

claude12345
07-10-2008, 10:32 PM
john theres a pvc edgeband which is the same thickness as the paperback edgeband that you have it doesnt break when you fold it and its easy to trim off with a planer blade. you glue it on with contact.what i do is stack my pieces to be edgeband on top of each other then get some stayput spray adessive,comes in a spraycan,make sure you get the clear not the red,the red stians the pvc and you cant get it off,now cut your stripes to length.get a piece of cardboard and spray the cardboard with the stayput ,let it dry for a few minites ,lay your edgeband face down the stripes will stick to the cardboard ,spay the edgeband and the malimine edge ,let dry for 5 min. and trim your done good luck

john_l
07-12-2008, 10:17 PM
Just to follow up...

I ended up going with the 2mm un-glued PVC Canplast. I also bought a clear double sided tape for use with the edgeband. This is the slickest thing I have seen.

I blow the dust off, and tape the edge. Then peel the liner off to expose the second sticky side. Then lay on the PVC. I have also been heating it with a heat gun before rolling it with a 3" laminate roller.

In my experience this is much cleaner and even faster than what I have tried in the past (heat irons and contact cement). It also has an absolutely awesome bond to the edge of the melamine.

Thanks to everyone.

magic
07-12-2008, 10:40 PM
Just for fun. I've used Bondo on the edges before. You make a ogee shape on the BOT and run it down the edge of the wet Bondo and you have a bullnose or whatever you want. Epoxy paint is used to finish. This was done for a special project where the shape was a kidney counter and I couldn't make a solid wood edge that was perfect.... and they wanted something that was not a flat edge.

The problems with the roll, edge banding (that you apply with an iron) is that when (not if) it moves off center, it's a problem.

I've bought the widest band I could and if it wanders then it's not a problem when you trim it to size.

I only mention this in case you can't find another cabinet shop that will do the edges or the piece is an odd shape.