Crown Moulding corner blocks?

[myxpykalix]

I have just seen a picture of this and rather then screw up lots of moulding because i cut it wrong I was thinking about using a crown moulding corner block in order to just make straight cuts on the crown.

Has anyone made anything like this on the bot? I am going to need to make inside and outside blocks. I can't find anything bigger then 2-3 inches at lowes and it looks like ****.

[cabindoors]

Jack, where's the picture?

[bleeth]

Jack:
A simple rosette pattern can be knocked out in your Artcam in a few minutes. You can toolpath vectors in a v-carve and use a ball nose for quicker cutting of the pattern or use the shape editor to create a relief for finer detail. Look in your sample reliefs folder for some ideas. James Booth also has some good ones available as reliefs.

[myxpykalix]

Dave,
I'm confused. What it sounds like you are describing is the rosette corners for door casings that are flat and what i was trying to describe was a corner that goes up in the ceiling for crown moulding that is like a 2 sided box that allows you to just butt your crown up to it rather then having to figure compound angles for the corners.

Maybe i don't understand your explaination. What i was getting at was to find out if anyone had made a 3d model that could be just carved and stuck up there and whether that would be easier and look better then trying to make the compound angle. It has been a few years since i did crown moulding and i recall messing up more then a few pieces because i cut it wrong, or using caulk because the angle wasn't quite right.

Here is what i was trying to describe. I can find them on the net fairly cheap just can't get them locally.

[mikek]

Here is an idea of a corner block from Home Depot stained to match cabinets, and interface with different crown molding. The block is simple, and you could use your crown pin nailed to the bottom or create a 2D/3D design for the bottom.

[bleeth]

You're right Jack-I was thinking corner rosettes. For crown corners I would probably buy them if I ever used them but I have always used my chop saw and either mitered or coped.

[gene]

Its not hard at all to miter crown molding . One simple way is to bed the crown molding upside down in your miter saw and hot glue a wood strip down to the saw bed ( not the rotating part ) and this will hold the crown at the correct angle for mitering .then cut on a 45 deg angle. The edge of the crown that hits the ceiling will be touching the bed of the miter saw. The part of the crown that hits the wall, will be touching the fence on the miter saw. i always tell people who are cutting crown to cut it up side down and backwards , try it with a few scraps . when i am going to do crown in a room i take a short piece of molding and make an inside corner about 8 to 10 inches long and brad it together, then take it and bed it to the ceiling and wall and put a pencil line under it, this gives the height that the long pieces should be at when bedded in properly . hope this helps. all it takes is a little practice,( and sometimes a lot of caulking)

[myxpykalix]

Good advice Gene. It has been several years since i did crown moulding and i recall that i had a set of templates (cut parts) labeled like (right side/inside corner) and when i needed that cut I would hold that up to the saw to make sure i was duplicating that cut, but do you think i could ever find them now?

There is a woodworking show coming up in a few days and kreg has a cheap jig ($29.00) that i might buy. I don't need much of an excuse to buy a new tool, so there is bound to be other goodies i'll be coming home with.

[gene]

There is a show in atlanta area this weekend. They would possibly have those templates since kregg will be set up there . I was going to go but at the time i need more space not more tools . Like i say , its really not that hard to do crown.

[myxpykalix]

The show will be in virginia next weekend. I have already started designing some corner blocks and would be done with this project before the weekend.

My mitre saw doesn't have a fence tall enough to hold the parts at the proper angles. Its a piece of ****. I'm using about 4" crown.

[gene]

Thats reason enough to buy a new miter saw with a laser, lol

[wberminio]

Jack

I would invest in a sliding compound miter saw.They make cutting crown moulding a bit easier.Many models have preset stops for setting miter and bevel cuts.
I also use Bosch electronic miter square.It calculates all angles and cuts-speeds up the work.

[myxpykalix]

Erminio i can buy one of those electronic squares for $50.00 off craigslist. Is that a good deal? It looks like they retail for around $150.00 new. Is there anything that goes hinkey with these things?

[bleeth]

Verify it works and grab it!!

[wberminio]

Dave's right on!-If works-Go for it!

[gene]

If you want to cut crown with it laying flat on the miter saw the angle will be 30.9 deg with a bevel of 35 deg. This is a common for crown that beds into the wall at 38 deg an the ceiling at 52 deg , an industry standard. the electronic gauge is good for checking the squareness of the corners, just get the reading off of the gauge and divide by 2 for the saw miters ( if you are bedding the molding to the saw fence and the table