Doyle Stick or Board Foot measurement stick?

[myxpykalix]

Does anyone have a dxf or whatever of the thing that looks like a yardstick with the measurements on it to be able to check the yield of a log for board feet?

I have a guy who has a 35 inch wide poplar log 10 feet long and he wants $500.00 bucks for it. Now i wouldn't pay anything near that but i want to try to show him what he might yield out of that and what its "real" value is.

[zeykr]

I've never seen a stick, but use the Doyle Scale all the time: http://tinytimbers.com/doylescale.htm

[cwshop]

http://tinytimbers.com/doylescale.htm

[beacon14]

http://www.woodweb.com/cgi-bin/calculators/calc.pl?calculator=log_volume

It MIGHT be worth 500 bucks - after it's been milled into lumber and dried. In log form it would be hard to find anyone to pay anything for it unless you have a whole bunch of them.

Here is a tree value calculator.

http://www.woodweb.com/Resources/RSCalculatorsTreeValue.html

[zeykr]

By the Doyle Scale a 10' log, 34" at the small end would produce about 563 board feet of lumber which is probably an overestimate. We normally pay 50 cents a board foot for cedar and oak and 60 cents for sassafras logs. Don't know what popular goes for but a dollar a board foot sounds high to me.

[michael_schwartz]

retail prices around here for roughsawn FAS poplar that has been dried are about $1.90 a board foot in my area.

I doubt all the board footage from the log will be a higher grade. I wouldn't touch it unless I could come in at 50% of retail milled, and kiln dried.

[Gary Campbell]

Wholesale KD 4/4 poplar here is about $1.45 bdft. Much less for local species. Green poplar logs are free for the taking. Most is sawn in the winter due to lower moisture content.

Jack...
Walk away. Tell him you buy verified dry lumber.

[Allen Wagner]

I haven't bought any poplar logs lately, but I've never paid more than $.40 per board foot.

[myxpykalix]

I wasn't looking to pay anything for the logs, I was trying to make a barter deal with the guy for some CNC services or pay a portion for the bandsaw guy to come over and cut it up.

I asked him what he felt the logs were worth and he came back with $100-$500. which i knew was crazy. I wanted to give him a real world value for the logs thus asking the experts:)

Since I asked this question earlier I made a deal with another guy who had some 20" cherry logs and he is giving me the yield from 1 log in exchange for a $25.00/hour reduction in bandaw cutting. I told him it was $100./hour. The guy only charges $75.00 so for me putting the deal together I get a trees worth of cherry wood.

Now i'll make the guy a nice sign or plaque or something extra worth my time and go and help stack and sticker the wood.

It would be nice to have some 35" wide poplar though......:rolleyes:

[michael_schwartz]

The cherry sounds like a good deal :D

[beacon14]

Since I asked this question earlier I made a deal with another guy who had some 20" cherry logs and he is giving me the yield from 1 log in exchange for a $25.00/hour reduction in bandaw cutting. I told him it was $100./hour. The guy only charges $75.00 so for me putting the deal together I get a trees worth of cherry wood.

Jack you are even smarter than I thought!

[myxpykalix]

David,
If this gives you any insight, when i was 21 I had 2 used car lots so I learned to be a "wheeler-dealer" early on. I never put the prices of my cars on the windshield because when guy would drive up before i went out to talk to them i looked up the value of what they were driving and added that to the price of any car they asked about so when they traded it in, it was like it was free...

Now that didn't work out like that always but I learned you have to think about how to make the best deal for yourself while making the other guy feel good about the deal.:rolleyes:

"Jack you are even smarter than I thought! "
And i credit you for being able to spot a superior intellect...lolhttp://www.talkshopbot.com/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif
thanks buddy...

[michael_schwartz]

Have any more sales tactics you would like to share? :D