Cathedral walls

[john_hartman]

I successfully created a cathedral wall as the beginning of a new client drawing. I then added an arched doorway. Everything worked, however the two angled walls which create the cathedral ceiling have cut my door way at an angle. The attached jpegs will tell it all. The doorway was added after the cathedral ceiling so I'm not sure how to correct the issue. Any takers?

[myxpykalix]

Not sure what program you are using to create your vectors but it looks like you have overlapping vectors although i'm not sure why it is covering that portion of the door unless in whatever program you are using by making the 2 overlapping rectangles somehow they are made into a "solid" therefore obscurring the door.

Post the file, or tell us what pgm you are using maybe that will help.

Also maybe the order that the parts were created or layered in your program can be changed so that by putting that layer obscurring the door in a lower position might unblock it.

also clip your inside vectors that make up the rectangles join them to the outside perimeter vectors and that should delete the solid?

[Gary Campbell]

John...
I can only speak for me, but I am a seldom user of the CL features. You may get more input on the eCabs forum.

[englert]

John,

Try reversing the concept for the angles. Create the wall at it's intended height. The add the two rectangles to the top of the wall. Rotate them down and then "Cut Geometry", rather than "Add Geometry" That shouldn't interfere with your doorway.

Since you've most of the hard part done. I'd change the wall height to the peak height. Select the two angled rectangles, then move them up via "move increment" to the peak. Then "Cut Geometry".

Dennis

[kerry_fullington]

Build your cathedral using only two wall sections. I have separated the walls so you can see the break.

http://www.kerryfullington.com/forum/cathedral.jpg

[kerry_fullington]

Here is the left wall in the edit wall view.

http://www.kerryfullington.com/forum/left.jpg

[john_hartman]

Dennis- I counld not get your suggestion to work... see attached.

Kerry- I'm liking your suggestion. It appears to be the easiest. I was able to quickly each side of the wall, but how you fuse them together so thst they are visiable in the main view?

[kerry_fullington]

John,

In custom layout overhead view just draw the first wall (half of your finished wall) then click on the end of that wall to snap the next wall to it.

http://www.kerryfullington.com/forum/snap.jpg
Kerry

[john_hartman]

Kerry- I did exactly that before. I guess what I'm asking is being able to see both right and left sides together as one in the main or elevation view. Currently they are labeled as walls 1 and 2. You must choose which wall you wan to see in an upright position. thanks.

[kerry_fullington]

John,

You will need to hold the shift key on your keyboard along with the left mouse button and drag the mouse to rotate the view in Custom Layout.

[john_hartman]

Kerry- actually rotating a view up with "shift+left mouse" only works sometimes. Its weird; at times I open-up ecabs and it works fine and other times its locked. All other features work. So I have to shut it down and reopen. Does anyone else have this issue?

What I gather is that it is not possible to see both walls on the same screen while in the "Elevation/wall view". For this design I will be placing a very large built-in mantle directly in the middle of the wall. I new at this so I'm used to seeing the entire wall; being able to calculate the position of cabinets from different points on a wall.

[englert]

John,

Kerry's method overall is easier, but it is two walls, not one. As you noted you can only select one wall at a time to place cabinets in the elevation view, when the walls are drawn this way. You can only see the both walls or the entire wall by rotating it.

Your current walls are 102" tall. With the other method, make the walls the height of the peak. Draw the rectangles with the bottom of the rectangles centered at the highest point, Then rotate the rectangles and Cut.

Your drawing doesn't show the overall height of the peak.

Dennis

[kerry_fullington]

John,There has been a problem with the rotate view in custom layout since the issue of version 6. I think it is only a problem for certain graphics cards. I have one of those cards so I have the problem. I gave up on getting it fixed. I just re-start eCabinets often.I use the two wall scenario because it is faster and easier to get the correct pitches. Your wall is divided in the middle, if your mantle is centered it will be the same distance from the end of both walls. You can associate the mantle to both walls to check it in elevation viewKerry

[englert]

John,
The calculations on Pg 3-5-11 work for this application.

I've attached a Paint file that may help visualize what I wrote.

Dennis

[englert]

John,
That wasn't 100%. There is a black line that shows at the top of the wall. The angled rectangles can be moved down incrementally and then the line is removed, but a little remnant of the wall remains at the peak.

I'll have to play with that some more to see if there is another method.

Dennis

[englert]

You can disregard the black line. It is the line that indicates the interior of the wall. When you go to the rendered view or presentation view, it is no longer there.

Dennis