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magic
05-27-2011, 03:30 PM
In the "Inches per second" mode the slowest X.Y. speed I can program is .05
A. Can I cause X.Y. to travel slower using "Inches per minute"?
B. If not, how can one reduce the cut speed slower then .05?

- - - - - - Second Question (Program is running)

When I press the space bar the program keeps running (and ruining the material).

How can I make it so the program quits immediately upon pressing the return key or the space bar?

Thank you
Frustrated user.

srwtlc
05-27-2011, 04:22 PM
Inches per minute won't do it. Try 'Slow Speed Generation for Unusual Requirements" under UV (Unit Values). Never had the need for it myself, but give it a try.

Never had the problem with not stopping. :confused:

srwtlc
05-27-2011, 04:52 PM
Just gave it a try. Good grief that's slow! I think I need a shave now! ;)

If you set a step interval divider of 2, it's twice as slow.

And yes, it doesn't stop right away. It seems to continue on until the end of that move or until a jog comes along. I'd suggest that you modify your code to only do what you want and wait for it to finish. Sounds like a bug to me so maybe you should report it to support so they can address it.

Scott

magic
05-27-2011, 06:36 PM
Slow can be good but why should we need to tell the software it's a special need?

I've never broken a bit going slow but have snapped a few going fast.

magic
05-27-2011, 07:28 PM
This time I hit the return button and the program ran another 16 lines before X.Y. stopped but the router kept turning and didn't raise to home.

I had to give it the three finger salute. I think the version is 3.6

myxpykalix
05-28-2011, 01:24 AM
many times when i want to stop it with the spacebar a single hit won't do it, i have had to hit it several times, then again sometimes when i barely brush the touchpad on the laptop it stops it when i don't want it to.

magic
05-28-2011, 02:59 PM
Now it's running to the end of the file then won't pull-up but the router keeps turning. I have to force-quit.

Should i just reinstall the software?

Gary Campbell
05-28-2011, 03:16 PM
Magic...
Since most of us cut with a router bit at high rotational speed, anything under .25ips would be out of the ordinary. One fifth of that is "special circumstances". What is it that you cut at those extremely slow speeds?

A reinstall may help, but dont hold your breath. The [S] or [spacebar] pause worked intermittently a couple years back and has had decreased reliability with most every upgrade since. It has almost never worked on my machine due to the fact I always have "VO" offsets in play on the Z.

After a pause, there are 2 options. 1) [QUIT], rezero axes and start over. or 2) [RESUME] and most likely ruin material. The x&y retain position after a pause about 80% of the time, the z almost never. Your mileage may vary.

bleeth
05-28-2011, 10:27 PM
Gary:
In another post today you said that the latest SB software is OK. (forgive me for not quoting). Here you note that pausing has issues that continue to get worse with each issue. I am confused. There are many reasons to need to pause in a file without screwing up the works. Although many of the newest releases are required to operate the E-cab link, at this point, as far as I am concerned, I am most interested in which version of SB runs smoothly, pauses as it should, and doesn't have z issues. These problems should not be existent in SB software at this point for any reason at all. The multiple patches to every new release is indicative of only one thing. More real world testing is needed before release. IMHO an OS of this type should only have a new release once every couple years and an "adjustment" maybe twice in between. I won't second guess the reasons for these ongoing issues but will state categorically that for production use and also custom use in long and code heavy 3-d files the expense in time and materials of cutting errors caused by these "challenges" can really kill a small business.
As much as I truly dig my bot thes items drive me up a wall.

Gary Campbell
05-28-2011, 11:43 PM
Dave...
For a SB Link user like myself, I would either use 3.6.18 or 3.6.38. I have installed and run virtually every version including betas. Since I do beta test, report and upgrade I have seen many noticeable improvements from version to version. I have also seen in person and observed on the forum a good number of problems that pop up with SB3 upgrades.

I dont run any of the OEM included files on my machine, including postp's, so I back up my C:\SbParts\Custom folder prior to an upgrade and delete all files installed with the software. Then I copy my backup to C:\SbParts. This seems to have eliminated most of my upgrade problems.

If I didnt need the new software to enable SB Link use, I might do a clean XP install and revert back to 3.5.18 or 20. That might be an interesting test. Even on my old machine (before any mods) I dont remember the [spacebar] pause working reliable.

Results of the 2 polls I posted showed that most professional users stay a number of versions back until a release is shown to be without issue. The rest of the user base were much more likely to use the later versions. I agree on the multiple patches. Seems like every release has a patch to catch the mistakes after a day or two of the phones being lit up.

magic
05-29-2011, 01:22 PM
I think i'll go back a few versions, and try that.

Gary Campbell
05-29-2011, 01:49 PM
Magic....
There have been problems created in the past by reverting back to prior versions. Registry entries, .INI and config files ALL must be deleted prior to an install of a prior version. Since SB Tech Supt does not recommend this procedure, you are proceeding at your own risk.

You never said what you are cutting. Inquiring minds want to know! :D

magic
05-29-2011, 05:53 PM
So should i contact Ted and tell him this is a bug?

Gary Campbell
05-29-2011, 05:56 PM
Magic...
Contact him and tell him WHAT is a bug? What are you cutting?

magic
05-29-2011, 06:55 PM
It's just wood Gary. On three different files with different sized artwork. The problem is the machine won't stop when the return or space-bar is pressed.

Sometimes X.Y. completes 15 lines and sometimes it goes another 70 - right up to where the pull-up should occur. Then the X.Y. motion stops but the router does not pull up or turn off.

Pressing either key multiple times (or the mouse) does not work either. I usually need to force/quit the program.

Thanks for reading all this.

Gary Campbell
05-29-2011, 06:59 PM
Magic...
I am sure this has been reported numerous times, but assuming that you can send info, such as files, cut parameters etc, it never hurts to give them more info.

magic
05-29-2011, 07:56 PM
OK

There was nothing wrong with 3.2. maybe I'll see about removing 3.6.
I only have 5 programs on that computer so it shouldn't be impossible.

Brady Watson
05-30-2011, 09:21 AM
Are you using a wireless keyboard or mouse on that machine?

-B

magic
05-30-2011, 03:03 PM
it's a mouse