Using Aspire for Text

[jimmya]

When using text I tell Aspire the text height is 20” as in picture 1, but, then as you can see in picture 2, the text is not 20”. What am I doing wrong? Other programs does the same thing.

Thanks For Your Help
Jimmy

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[mezalick]

It’s that particular font and the way it was designed.
It will work correctly with other font types.
Michael

[jimmya]

I tried it, and you are 100% corect.
Thanks for your Help
Jimmy

[GlenP]

Hey Jimmy. You aren't doing anything wrong it is just the type of text. If you try a arial font you will see it does come out at 20" high. If you need to make the font larger you can rescale it by using the using the "set selected objects size" tool icon or just make the text larger till it works out. Use the measure tool to measure height. I drew a 20" "M" in arial font and then just made the curly script larger till it was same height. ;)

A 26" high curly text looks like same size as 20" arial font. Play around and have fun with the text.

[srwtlc]

Each font can be a little different. I don't know why, but your best bet is to make it and then use "Scale" to change it to exactly what you want.

Black Chancery turns out to be 25.4".

[jimmya]

I don’t understand why, one font would scale differently than the other. 20” should be 20” but it does the same thing in other programs, with different heights in each. I guess each program has its on way of doing things.
Thanks For the Help
Jimmy

[dana_swift]

True type (modern) fonts are designed to scale to their "em" size. Once upon a time type was all done with lead. The size of a font was the size of the lead mold that was used to create the line. Various fonts were intended to be taller or shorter than others, fit together on the same line, and still be compatible with the mechanical printing technology of the day.

The apparent size of one font to another on paper is due to this legacy from the days of lead type even when the size is specified as the same. There is less variation in TrueType fonts than in earlier computer fonts, however the issue remains. Individual characters (glyphs) within a font may vary from the "em" height also, even though they might be all lower case, or upper.

Some fonts are scaled 1:1, others are not. The designer of the typeface gets to pick the relative "weight" and "height" of the font, that being some of the things that are trademarked when a typeface is someones property.

I think Glen's solution is by far the best if you want an exact height. Then you can make lower case or upper case scale as you wish.

:)

[jimmya]

Thanks Dana,
I'll use Glen's solution
Jimmy

[jerry_stanek]

The G and H are 20 inches

[myxpykalix]

THe way I would explain it, is the "aspect ratio" that the font was originally created as has to do with the way it scales up or out.:confused:

[dauteuil]

Be careful with typography.
All the characters of the same typeface are not the same height.
The "O,S,G" mainly rounded letters are always higher than the others,
to visually compensate for the extra void they leave beside them.
If these were of the exact same height as the rest of the alphabet, they would appear smaller and out of place. Try it, you'll see.
So, careful when dimensioning letters individually.
I always take my dimensions from a square letter such as M or T and let the rest flow.

[jimmya]

Very good advise and I will use it, thanks for your reply.
Jimmy

[michael_schwartz]

Draw a rectangle to the desired height and manually stretch the text diagonally to fit.

Novelty fonts such as Curls MT are prone to issues such as this.

[Steamplates]

That's how I would approach it. Draw a box 20" high and estimate the length of the text (does not really matter much). Decide which letters you want 20" high, or chose the one that works out tallest in height. Expand the text to fit the chosen letters in the box and the job is done.

Regards

Steve