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HelicopterJohn
07-16-2011, 08:58 AM
Hi,

I recently purchased a used Shopbot PRT 48 X 96 CNC Router. The previous owner had modified the unit to work with Mach 3 software. It had Gekco 202 geckodrive step motor drives. They were a little noisy, especially when running at lower speeds. It originally had a CNC4PC breakout board which successfully operated the Shopbot.

I cut a lot of plastics and had the need to reduce the spindle RPM in cutting this material. Being new to the DYI concept of CNC tools I did quite a bit of research on possible retrofits to bring new life back to this machine on various forums on the internet.

I decided to install a Super PID Speed control kit on the router with a minimum RPM of 5000 and still have good torque for cutting. I also decided to remove the current Shopbot control and make my own DYI control. The only remaining electronic items left were a couple of proximity switches and the Stepper motors.

I also installed the 2010 Screen Set for my Mach 3 software that is feature rich in that it allows you to do semi-automatic tool changes, probing etc.

Yesterday a friend in Florida helped me assemble and wire up all the electronic components. I couldn't have done this without his help. I used a PMDX-126 Multi-Mode Breakout Board, 2 each PMDX-133 Motherboards for mounting the new Gekco 203V geckodrive step motor drives, and a PMDX-107 isolated speed control which interfaced with the Super PID Speed controller. This allows me to have spindle RPM control via GCode that is run in the Mach 3 software. Using the 2 each PMDX-133 motherboards will allow me to use up to 6 drives. I also have 2 parallel ports one in the main CPU of my PC and also an add-on parallel port card in case I need any additional inputs etc. in the future. I hope to add a 4th axis sometime in the future.

I now have to install the components in a cabinet that my brother made for me and install appropriate cooling fans for the electronics.

The Shopbot now runs like a dream. QUIET and SMOOTH. The total cost for the retrofit was around $1500.00. All new electronics except for the stepper motors and a proximity switches.

John

gc3
07-16-2011, 09:32 AM
....well lets see some pics! :eek:

danhamm
07-16-2011, 07:37 PM
I am a little confused, you say it had a cnc4pc breakout board and the shopbot control board,..? can you explain...also what voltage did you go with for the new power supply.? if it had g202's drivers it already had the upgrade.

garyb
07-17-2011, 11:45 AM
I am a little confused, you say it had a cnc4pc breakout board and the shopbot control boardI believe John meant it had a cnc4pc board in place of the shopbot board which he has now changed out to the pmdx 126 (being a much better board).

the 126 board does not need an independent power supply, it draws its power directly from the ac outlet and is voltage selectable between 115 or 230 volt
gary

HelicopterJohn
07-28-2011, 07:56 AM
Hi,

Sorry about the lateness of this reply as I forgot to click on the instant e-mail notification box.

Dan,

Actually the former owner installed the G4 Upgrade in the Shopbot control cabinet. He then cut the step and direction pins off the Gekco 202's and soldered extension wires which hooked up to the CNC4PC breakout board. The Gekco 202's still plugged in to the Shopbot control board.

gc3,

I have attached a few pictures to give you a little update on what is going on with my project. Keep in mine this is a work in progress and I am doing updates on a daily basis. Some of the pictures supplied may be a little dated as I continue to clean up the initial bread board installation.

All of the input wiring like the proximity switches, ESTOP, Tool Setter, etc. will be cleaned up and attached to DB9 connectors that will attach to the back panel that I made yesterday. Also, an Exhaust fan will be attached to that plate as shown in the picture. Furthermore, the 2 parallel ports that go to the PMDX-126 have the required plugins.

My goal is to have this modular drawer that can be removed from the cabinet for ease of service and possible future hardware updates.

The Super PID has an Electronic LED display. My friend is making me an extension cable allowing me to mount this in the front Plexiglas panel along with an ON/OFF switch. A series of holes will also be drilled in the front Plexiglas panel to allow for fresh air intake.

I have ordered new heat sinks for the PDMX-133 Motherboards that the Gekco 203V's will mount to. Each of those motherboards will have its own cooling fan. The exhaust fan mounted on the back control panel will remove the heat from the cabinet.

This will give you a pretty good idea of what I am doing. Will give you some more photos as I get further along with this project.

John

HelicopterJohn
07-30-2011, 06:48 AM
Hi Guys,

Here are some pictures of the heatsink material I purchased. Cut one large heatsink into 2 pieces and sized for my application. Then surfaced the bottom of the heatsink to make sure it is flat and also drilled and tapped holes for mounting the Gekco 203V's. Applied thermal paste to the bottom of the Gekco 203V's and mounted them to the heatsinks. I also made an aluminum angle bracket for mounting the drives in my control cabinet.

John

danhamm
07-30-2011, 08:48 PM
Well done, dont think you will overheat the drivers now...
What Motors do you have on this bot..?
I am running on a PDMX Bob at present also and using Mach3..
I rebuilt my Bot to a single piece gantry and am expirmenting with diff
step motors, Motion king and Leadshine and Vexta..
Lots of fun..

HelicopterJohn
07-30-2011, 09:07 PM
I am currently running Vexta A6497-9412KTG motors on the X and Y Axis and Vexta PK296A2A-5G72 on the Z Axis.

I am running Mach 3 software with the 2010 Screen Set that has semi-automatic tool changing software and also has a X Y Probing Wizard.

The 2010 screen set has the user defined park postion and also a designated tool change position and a fixed plate position for tool length setting.

The Super PID allows me to set speeds on my router from 5000 to maximum for the router and still maintain good torque and the RPM is controlled via the Gcode commands run through the Mach3 software.

John

HelicopterJohn
03-30-2017, 08:22 PM
Hi Guys,

Well, it is 2017 and my electronic and software retrofit project on my shoptbot PRT is still working flawlessly. One of the best moves that I ever made. Runs great on Windows 7 and Mach3 utilizing a modified 2012 Screen set that is loaded with open source macros. Here is a link to the video I did on the retrofit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WQ8KcTSKyQ&t=909s

Just made a plate that attaches to my Porter Cable router that holds a Tormach Diamond Drag Tool that can make some awesome LED Edge Lit Signs. Even added a new open source macro that works with my X laser that is capable of setting my datum point at the correct offset to the Tormach Diamond Drag Tool. The new diamond drag tool works great with materials like plexiglas that have varying thicknesses that can lead to issues when trying to engrave with a rotating cutter in the spindle. Note: The diamond tool is not conductive so you have to manually set the Z height which is no big issue.

John

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