cyclone dust collection systems

[ron_moorehead]

I am looking to get a new cyclone dust collection systems for the shop. I was hoping to get some feedback on what people have found to be a good cyclone dust collector, brand, size, were you happy with it, would you go larger. The most I would be running off of it at any one time would be the ShopBot PRT 48 by 96 and a Delta Unisaw.

Thanks for any feedback.

[michael_schwartz]

I have the 3.5hp tempest cyclone and I have been very pleased with it. I can generally leave 2-3 gates open without any problems.

[myxpykalix]

i don't know if this is something you want to buy or construct yourself but you might take a look at some youtube videos for tips. I have seen some made fairly reasonably and easily.

[mitch_prest]

even if you don't buy one here.. http://www.clearvuecyclones.com/ its got lots of info ...

[2Egress Sound & Design]

I have an Oneida Mini Gorilla and run it on my table saw chop saw and PRS Alpha 48/96 and am very happy with it. I have blast gates at each machine too. But you could easily run a couple open without any issue.
Best of luck!
Brock

[br928]

Ron,

A cyclone is absolutely the way to go for dust collection. If you want to read more about them that you ever wanted to know, try this website. http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/index.cfm (http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/index.cfm)

I bought a "Woodsucker" built from Bill's design but the guy shut his business down several years ago. I don't know enough about the other brands to recommend one over another.

The "Thien seperator" (http://www.cgallery.com/jpthien/cy.htm (http://www.cgallery.com/jpthien/cy.htm)) is also a good design for enhancing a bag collection system for perhaps a lower cost. But it will not get the very fine particulates out that a cyclone will.

[bobmoore]

I have a 3 horse Grizzly that seems like overkill unless I have all machines running at once, but the larger the cyclone the more efficient it is. I rarely have to empty the dust bag.

[michael_schwartz]

Bill Pentz does have some useful information on his site but I strongly disagree with some of his opinions about products that compete with systems based on his design. I will leave it at that.

[gerryv]

We have a 2.5 HP high efficiency Oneida Dust Gorilla. We're happy with the build quality. It has a Baldor rather than a "junk" motor and it was priced competitively. We're sometimes running a large Felder planer/jointer and occasionally, a 50" double drum sander at the same time as the Shopbot and it does just fine. The key to optimal suction and flow from these things is actually very dependent on decent, properly sealed piping and gates so you don't lose much to leakage at all the seams and joints. Also, to not undersize or, for that matter, oversize your piping or have bottlenecks. Note that the piping, gates and associated installation add quite a bit to the cost. If we had to do it again, I'd be very tempted to go with one or even two of their large roll-around portable cyclone units and believe they would handle things well.

The thing to know is that all of these cyclone systems are LOUD even when anchored using isolation mounts/feet.

[steve_g]

Ron:

I also have an Oneida cyclone. When I was researching what I needed, the folks at Oneida were very helpful, in fact when I told them it was for a CNC situation, they changed something (inlet size I think) to increase the velocity to carry chips away faster. My research at that time showed that their filtration was better in the micron range where the most lung damage occurs and that any bag system I looked at was very poor where it needed to be the best. After 5 years my only complaint is my own fault... I had it made where it would fit under my 8' garage ceiling. that limited it to a 35 gal. drum. Boy that fills fast!

Steve

[harryball]

I have the Oneida Super Dust Gorilla 3HP. It works very well and I'm happy with it. I did a lot of research before purchasing and still feel like I made the right choice. Wish I could say that for every piece of equipment I own.

/RB

[ron_moorehead]

Thanks for all the infomation, this does help. I e-mailed three companies about information on thier dust collectors and have only gotten one reply back with a phone call from Oneida. Always makes me wonder if you have a problem if they would get back to you if they won't contact you about selling you a unit.

[propellers]

We used the Jet 4 bag DC1900 1 phase 3hp 220v for years and now for sale/$500.00. We were about to add a stand alone Cyclone which greatly improves the bag colector, new and for sale $100, but purchased an Oneida Pro 1500, 3hp 1 phase 220v. This unit works excellent, less noise, more vacuum, required less floor space, shop is cleaner and probably our lungs also and the factory service was excellent..and made in the USA.

Lonnie Prince
419-877-5557

[gundog]

I have the 3 HP Oneida Dust Gorilla and I like it. They will design the duct work for free if you send them a sketch of your shop. Mine has a dust sentry which is an eye on the hopper and it has a strobe light that tells you when it is full. Mine also has the remote start and stop feature.

Mike

[pappybaynes]

Lonnie, I am sure you won't remember me, but I sat with you at a Jamboree in 2007 and through our conversations I knew that I needed to buy a Shopbot, which I did the following year! Thank you!!
Dick

[mitch_prest]

the latest issue of fine woodworking has a feature on dust collecting and cyclones.. its worth a look before you spend a pile of money on something new.. issue 223