Revolutionary New Hold Down System

[CNYDWW]

Really? I know it's Brazil but come on.

http://youtu.be/pfKfqcsbP5U

[paul_z]

I am speachless! ....................

Before I retired, I occassionally worked with high explosives. I had saying that you should never work with explosives with a guy named Stumpy. Looks like it can also be a girls name.

[CNYDWW]

I am speachless! ....................

Before I retired, I occassionally worked with high explosives. I had saying that you should never work with explosives with a guy named Stumpy. Looks like it can also be a girls name.

In cabinet and woodworking shops, we always started calling those that would do things like this "Lefty"

[pro70z28]

How would you like to do that all day long. NO DAYDREAMING. :eek:

[gerryv]

...and bum pinching is popular there too. Scarey!

[harold_weber]

Isn't it wonderful how much work can be done when you don't have those horrible OSHA folks trying to limit you? NOT

[chiloquinruss]

Randy - I believe it's called evolutionary not revolutionary - something about gene pool cleaning or some such nonsense! :) It made me close my eyes at the end of the cut! Ouch! Good post, thanks. Russ

[myxpykalix]

well i counted...she still had 10 fingers....:D

[CNYDWW]

well i counted...she still had 10 fingers....:D

Yeah well... She must be new.

As far as other comments. If it wasn't for OSHA and the country's love for lawsuits. These type of techniques would be widely used.

[michael_schwartz]

whats his address so I can send him a box of kreg screws.

[letterman7]

Well.... yes, it's stupid to hold down parts but from someone who has done that consistently years ago I can say that I still have all my fingers. If the pattern is consistent and repeatable then there is no reason why you can't hold the part as she's doing - the flap would otherwise rattle and possibly break the bit. I don't condone the action, but I can't say not to do that, either.

[gerryv]

Depends... it's fairly common practice to do that working with machine like table saws and jointers even though not necessarily wise. The BIG difference is that those blades/knives are captured and can't suddenly change direction, speed up, go haywire etc. Matters not what triggered it whether operator or otherwise. It's the guys who think they're fast enough to react to the unexpected at close quarters that end up with the nicknames mentioned above. Unfortunately, this lady's probably not given a choice.

[signsbyjay]

The first thing that came to my mind,was if they are vac. forming the parts, why don't they form the needed holes. seems it would save time and money (even if she does not lose any fingers).

[CNYDWW]

whats his address so I can send him a box of kreg screws.

Who me? PM Sent, i could always use more kreg screws. I use 1 1/4 and 1 1/2" the most. :D

[steve_g]

When I Saw the video I was reminded of a situation that happened when I was a very young "lead man" at a shop. I made a setup I thought was safe involving a radial arm saw... The young operator running the job went into brainless mode... cut move cut move cut move... until he got out of rhythm and cut off the tips of three fingers. It just takes one moment of distraction or thinking about what's happening after work or whatever and WHAM.

I never forgot that incident and after that always tried to make set ups that a monkey couldn't hurt himself on. I also won't have a radial arm saw in my shop!

Steve

[CNYDWW]

When I Saw the video I was reminded of a situation that happened when I was a very young "lead man" at a shop. I made a setup I thought was safe involving a radial arm saw... The young operator running the job went into brainless mode... cut move cut move cut move... until he got out of rhythm and cut off the tips of three fingers. It just takes one moment of distraction or thinking about what's happening after work or whatever and WHAM.

I never forgot that incident and after that always tried to make set ups that a monkey couldn't hurt himself on. I also won't have a radial arm saw in my shop!

Steve

The monkey will always find a way to hurt himself still. As far as radial arm saws go. I used to train new mold techs when i worked as a pattern maker building aluminum processing equipment. I was always quick to weed out the monkeys. Going through the safety and use of a very large saw with a "professional" that was new in the plant. He wouldn't stop crossing his arms when using the saw. I stopped him, went through everything again from the begining. He didn't take to that very well getting frustrated with me. He quit promptly after that and when i threw out mold parts he cut on the table saw. He couldn't even rip a straight piece of plywood. His excuse was.... I built this and I did that you can't tell me how to do this. You can never get what you're asking for... didn't go over well in that shop.

[bleeth]

Nothing I love better than a guy who has been "doing this for years" and claims he doesn't need any advice. NOT! Sure way to get fired before he costs me too much.

[harryball]

OK, so maybe we do use table saws and such but Gerald is right, this thing can take off and do its own thing. Perhaps if there were hard limits set with steel blocks that it couldn't go outside of I... nahh, still wouldn't personally do it. I could be more comfortable watching though.

/RB

[CNYDWW]

Nothing I love better than a guy who has been "doing this for years" and claims he doesn't need any advice. NOT! Sure way to get fired before he costs me too much.

I've been on the other end of things too. Although i believe you never stop learning, i've been there when they've complained that "this guy is a know it all".
It just happened to be the case where my supervisor's boss's boss was telling me to share my skills even though i'd only been there a few weeks. What it does come down to is. The boss is always right less it's a safety issue. Do it his way as long as you're not holding down vac formed parts into a cnc router.