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jzarski1
10-30-2012, 06:19 PM
Well my wife and I are expecting our first in three months and it's a boy, so add another shopbotter to the soon to be list. Anyways she just drop the nursery hint to me last night. Sent me a ton of pictures of something called wainscot. Looks like I can do it on my Shopbot just have no clue where to start. Any one have any experience or advice? Don't have much time :confused: thanks for any help
Here is a link to some examples. http://www.wainscotingbyexecutive.com/CNC%20Cutting%20&%20Routing%20Services/CNC%20Cutting%20&%20Routing%20Services.htm
John
feinddj
10-30-2012, 06:32 PM
Wainscot is simply rail and panel for doors but on the wall. If you want to do it the fast way, check Tools Today (amana bits) for cnc designed bits to make frame and panel doors. If you have time but no money for bits, look into using the two rail sweep in Aspire to make the wainscot. You can do this for an mdf panel that is routed out or a separate panel to go into a frame.
David
kurt_rose
10-30-2012, 07:06 PM
Google free doors. Should work great for what your shooting for.
myxpykalix
10-30-2012, 07:09 PM
Here is some wainscoting i made for one of my apartments. If this is the type of wainscoting you are interested in then contact me off forum (email in profile) and i can give you plenty of advice on how i created it and the best way to arrange your toolpaths and cutting because if you look at the 8 ft piece of mdf i made 3 sections plus the half round pilasters w/ rosettes and dentil molding and bottom rail all out of 1 piece of 8 ft mdf.:D
I don't recall but i'm sure it was more then a dozen toolpaths and at least 4-6 different bits. It all depends on how fancy you want to make it. You could make some that looks like straightline panels (forget name, countryhouse?)
jzarski1
10-30-2012, 07:15 PM
Thanks David, I don't have Aspire but I do have Vcarve pro. Can I do it with that. I guess I don't really understand what it is? Sorry I an not a cabinet person:cool:
John
jzarski1
10-30-2012, 07:20 PM
Here is some wainscoting i made for one of my apartments. If this is the type of wainscoting you are interested in then contact me off forum (email in profile) and i can give you plenty of advice on how i created it and the best way to arrange your toolpaths and cutting because if you look at the 8 ft piece of mdf i made 3 sections plus the half round pilasters w/ rosettes and dentil molding and bottom rail all out of 1 piece of 8 ft mdf.:D
I don't recall but i'm sure it was more then a dozen toolpaths and at least 4-6 different bits. It all depends on how fancy you want to make it. You could make some that looks like straightline panels (forget name, countryhouse?)
That is freaking amazing!
kurt_rose
10-30-2012, 07:25 PM
Jack! you've been holding back on us. Very nice!
I bet the rent went up on that one!
myxpykalix
10-30-2012, 08:26 PM
That was one of the first big projects i did with my bot with the help of Bob Reda (I hope i remember correctly) 5-6 years ago so that is an oldie. He helped with the half round fluted pilasters.
Bob Eustace
10-30-2012, 08:39 PM
You dont half do lovely work for an old codger Jack! Makes our early attemps look a bit tame!
myxpykalix
10-30-2012, 08:50 PM
hey! I resemble that remark!:rolleyes:
That's the nice thing about a shopbot, it makes lame-o newbies (like you) look like they know what they're doing!:D
what...you didn't think i was going to say (like me) did you?:eek:
sam_harbold
10-30-2012, 09:21 PM
John
If your going to be painting the wainscot it is a fairly easy job to do with MDF and Vcarve Pro. I just received an order today for a room of wainscot which we will be doing next week. Naturally I don't have any finished pictures but here is a link to the PDF 3D drawing (http://odysseywood.us/wainscot/Wainscot_3D.pdf) we sent to the customer. I am providing the link because the file is to large to upload here. If you down load the file and open it in Adobe Reader you will be able to use the mouse to zoom, pan, and rotate around the room. If this is what you are looking to do let me know and I will be happy to give you a list of the cutters and how we cut these with Vcarve Pro.
Sam
feinddj
10-30-2012, 10:09 PM
John, you know what frame and panel doors are? they are rails (the bottom and top) and Styles (the sides) that wrap a solid panel. The solid wood panel expands and contracts so to keep the door stable with the least amount of movement, the panel slides into grooves on the rails and styles. You give a bit of gap for expansion and contraction of the panel. most bits you can get for this (called rail and style, a matched set) will cut a 3/8th profile which includes the groove and a cove of some sort on the top. There are a multitude of bits to cut the profile on the panel but the panel must be able to slide into the groove easily. Wainscot is this same type of treatment for the lower (generally) half of a wall. The styles in the middle would be milled on both edges to accept the panel from both sides. This is all designed to prevent the wainscot from warping.
Doing the same look in mdf, you are milling out the visible profile only. Mdf won't warp no matter what size the sheet is so you don't need all the joinery that would go with the solid wood or the cost. Your cost is the extra time spent milling it out on the 'bot.
I hope that helps. Almost every other issue of Fine woodworking will have an article about how to make frame and panel doors if you want to see a pic or two.
If I answered the wrong question, Aspire is the full feature version of V Carve made by the same folks.
D
taylor
10-30-2012, 10:50 PM
easy to do , these were done in part wizard, and part works
3 bits whiteside bit#5610, 5710, and 1/8 radius end mill to make the corners look square.
let me know if i can help you on the offsets and depth of cuts for each bit
mark
jzarski1
10-31-2012, 12:09 AM
easy to do , these were done in part wizard, and part works
3 bits whiteside bit#5610, 5710, and 1/8 radius end mill to make the corners look square.
let me know if i can help you on the offsets and depth of cuts for each bit
mark
That is exactly what my wife wants. I showed her the pictures. I really don't even know where to start.
What thickness MDF?
How do I tool path it?
John
taylor
10-31-2012, 08:15 AM
call me 757 288-6256 i can walk you thru everything
3/4 mdf
1/8 bit .15 depth
the other two bits .375 deep
the offsets for
1/8 bit to bit 5610 is .39 inches
the offset for
bit 5610 to bit 5710 is .28 inches
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