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t_vandemark
01-06-2013, 02:26 PM
Im looking to make the dresser from Beauty and the Beast Disney movie for my little girls. I'm already aware that these files will probably be very difficult to find, but i figured i'd ask in the best place i know. Does anyone know where i may find a file for this?

Brady Watson
01-06-2013, 04:46 PM
It's a pretty slim chance that you would find files for this anywhere but Disney. You're pretty much on your own in terms of creating your own from whatever photos you can find, and modeling it from scratch in software.

-B

gerryv
01-06-2013, 05:54 PM
Tyler,
Disney is famous, for good reason; they are also infamous, shall we say, for protecting their intellectual property (designs, characters, etc.) even against the smallest infringements. Like it or not, I'd talk to my kids and say something like, "do you want Daddy to get sued and spoil the fun" and come up with your own different enough design. Hey, it may even be better and more unique.

myxpykalix
01-06-2013, 07:53 PM
I made some furniture similar to this below and just started drawing from scratch once you get the basic shapes it's not that hard to draw. Building it is another story. There was a lot of kerfing plywood to bend it around curves and that was a project in itself.

I was always making notes to myself because between the computer and the shop questions arose that i had to try to remember in the construction phase.

Do a search for "Whimsical Furniture" or "Cartoon furniture" and you should find pictures and designs for inspiration.
Remember..."google is your friend":D
This is where i started:
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-whimsical-furniture/?ALLSTEPS
http://www.straightlinedesigns.com/gallery.html

cabnet636
01-06-2013, 08:16 PM
Might have to get creative but it can be done !!

http://www.lostateminor.com/2012/11/10/kids-furniture-straight-out-from-fantasy-books/

Ajcoholic
01-06-2013, 08:39 PM
Tyler,
Disney is famous, for good reason; they are also infamous, shall we say, for protecting their intellectual property (designs, characters, etc.) even against the smallest infringements. Like it or not, I'd talk to my kids and say something like, "do you want Daddy to get sued and spoil the fun" and come up with your own different enough design. Hey, it may even be better and more unique.

If you make it for your kids, there wont be an issue . You can't sell it, or advertise that you make it, etc.

t_vandemark
01-06-2013, 10:05 PM
As usual thanks for the quick replies. I pretty much knew the answer for this before i even posted the question. Just figured i'd check though. I think i'll just stick with the design that i've already made up.
Jack, those look great. What thickness of ply did you use for the curved sides on those?

myxpykalix
01-06-2013, 10:50 PM
It was 1/2" ply kerfed down to the last layer of veneer(if i remember right?). Depending on the angle of your curve will determine the space between each kerf. I think i tended to overdue it because mine flopped around like a limp...noodle:eek:

I'd take some scrap plywood and experiment with some cuts. If the kerfs are too far apart it won't bend very well and will produce lumpy sections. Got to youtube for some instructional videos

kevin
01-07-2013, 09:24 PM
http://www.talkshopbot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12191

There a tread stared by Jack I don't think he finished

A cnc is ideal for this kind of work .But a cnc is only a tool it takes a skill or the time to learn to make it happen

For my grand kids I'll make one

bruce_taylor
01-07-2013, 11:47 PM
I know quit a bit about the mouse and have even done some work for them, They only care about you making money from there property, I would make whatever you want however you can and just don't sell anything and you won't ever have a problem, pixie dust you know!

feinddj
01-08-2013, 05:37 PM
Andrew,

Such is not the case. Disney makes its money on these characters. In order to keep their copyright on the characters they have to vigorously defend infringement. That is the law, not just the Mouse. They got into a spat with a daycare/school whose kids had drawn Disney characters on the walls. The Mouse said to paint over it as it had not been done by Disney Artists. Mindful of the PR aspects Disney offered to come in, free of charge, to redo the mural but was refused by the school as it was the point that the kids had done it. If Disney is made aware that you copied their property without licsense they will come after you. The set of exceptions is pretty narrow and mainly for purposes of satire. I am no fan of the Mouse but that is the way the law is read and enforced.

David

myxpykalix
01-08-2013, 09:48 PM
I knew this was going to degenerate into a copyright "discussion". I don't mean to denegrate anyone's point of view on this but let's end it before it get's started as we seem to always go on and on until someone gets angry then "She" steps in and put's the boys in their places...:D

jerry_stanek
01-09-2013, 10:23 AM
Andrew,

Such is not the case. Disney makes its money on these characters. In order to keep their copyright on the characters they have to vigorously defend infringement. That is the law, not just the Mouse. They got into a spat with a daycare/school whose kids had drawn Disney characters on the walls. The Mouse said to paint over it as it had not been done by Disney Artists. Mindful of the PR aspects Disney offered to come in, free of charge, to redo the mural but was refused by the school as it was the point that the kids had done it. If Disney is made aware that you copied their property without licsense they will come after you. The set of exceptions is pretty narrow and mainly for purposes of satire. I am no fan of the Mouse but that is the way the law is read and enforced.

David


If children drew the pictures how do they know what they were.

feinddj
01-10-2013, 02:02 AM
Try this link to find out more. My point is that if found, whatever and however, they do have a vested interest and will ask that it be destroyed.

voices.yahoo.com/copyright-issues-daycare-centers-not-problems-7503100.html

steve_g
01-10-2013, 02:44 AM
Many companies have lost their brand name/trademark by not "vigorously defending" them. Some examples are: Dry-ice, Band-Aid, escalator, Aspirin, Linoleum, Scotch tape... and many others. While it would be nice to have your product/name be so popular that the name becomes synonymous with any product of that type... a trademark can lose the right to registration and protection if it becomes generic.

SG

rb99
01-10-2013, 03:41 AM
Make the dresser, change it slightly. If you get caught, blame it on the kids. They won't do more than 5-6 years with good behavior.

myxpykalix
01-10-2013, 07:56 AM
besides while in the Slammer they might learn a trade....although I don't think
in the outside world there is much call for pressing license plates!:D

jerry_stanek
01-10-2013, 09:57 AM
No where in the article did it say that the children paint the scenes also they where out in the public viewing area. It said the school had the scenes painted.

Ajcoholic
01-10-2013, 08:56 PM
There is a HUGE difference if something is in a public daycare, or in your own home.

If you make a piece of furniture for your own kid, in your home... who is going to come to your house and tell you you have to get rid of it?? .

Dont sell it. Dont give it away outside your home. Dont use it in your own advertising. Dont say you can make them for sale/to give away/whatever.

bruce_taylor
01-10-2013, 10:09 PM
You aren't going to find the files you want, you will have to develop them yourself no matter how good you are it is hard to duplicate it, Get your ideas together and make what you want nobody is going to send the Disney Police looking in our little girls room, they have enough trouble with employees and public relations already. The princess theme is big and Disney or nobody else has any rights to "princess theme" stuff bot on!!!

chiloquinruss
01-10-2013, 10:24 PM
Did a Google on:

BEAUTY AND THE BEAST COLORING BOOKS

Then clicked on IMAGES

Got:

http://disney-stationary.com/coloring-book/Beauty-Beast/Armoire-Wardrobe.gif

Russ

steve_g
01-10-2013, 11:49 PM
Check this out... "Skiby & Sons" are offering to make it.

http://www.houzz.com/photos/1242758/Beauty-and-the-Beast-Dresser-traditional-furniture-phoenix (http://www.houzz.com/photos/1242758/Beauty-and-the-Beast-Dresser-traditional-furniture-phoenix)

Now, they don't use no CNC **** because " we believe that if the woodworking masters of the past were able to achieve such quality without computers we should try to carry on that tradition"

Ha! The masters of the past would have given any thing for a CNC tool!

SG

adrianm
01-11-2013, 04:14 AM
Ha! The masters of the past would have given any thing for a CNC tool!

Too right. It always annoys me when some woodworkers go on about using modern glues and power tools as somehow not being "proper" woodworking.

As you say the only reason those in the past didn't use them was because they weren't available. It's the quality of the finished piece that matters not how it was made.

rb99
01-11-2013, 06:13 AM
Lathes, mechanical duplicators, table saws, planers, etc. are technology they would use... This hypocritical because they are machines too.

WoodMarvels.com
01-16-2013, 05:59 AM
That's some amazing woodworking skill there Jack -