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Ajcoholic

01-10-2013, 09:09 PM

I have a set of 8 dining room chairs to make (to go along with a table I am also making) soon.

When I do a new style of chair, the first thing I do is lay it out on paper, and plywood to get the correct proportions. Then, I start cutting material to mock up the design and refine it.

This is the first step... I cut the seat, and front and back legs on my Shopbot Buddy (in birch as I had some off cuts left and its a lot cheaper than walnut).

The crest rail (back) I just finished before the end of the day. It is a compound curve, curved both side to side and also bottom to top - with Aspire, that is so easy to do! Its taken a little trial and error but I am learning yet how easy Aspire is to do these seemingly complex 3D shapes.

It is VERY comfortable, but I am unhappy with the overall look of the chair. Too heavy looking. I am at a good place right now, the proportions are good, in terms of how a dining chair should be (proper height, comfortable, good lower back support) so it is just making it look more refined.

Next step is to make some cosmetic changes (as well, I want to widen the seat and taper it more front to back), make revisions to my programs/cut files and once that is done cut another prototype - hopefully which will be the one I show the customer to get the OK to go ahead with the 8.

The Shopbot makes prototyping much faster and much easier than making patterns, cutting parts by hand, making new patterns, etc. It has really allowed my chairs to be better made, faster and more identical to one another.

AJC

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0714_zps48c71589.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0713_zps744aa0a3.jpg

Ajcoholic

01-10-2013, 09:11 PM

more pics along the way as I progress. I am hoping tomorrow I will get some time to work on it. If not, next week.

AJC

t_vandemark

01-10-2013, 09:32 PM

Now that is one good lookin chair.

Brian Harnett

01-10-2013, 09:37 PM

I think the heaviness comes from the back xpc I would eliminate the 3d shape on the back and curve the bottom to lighten it up.

Nicely constructed.

Ajcoholic

01-10-2013, 09:43 PM

Well you have to start somewhere... :) Sometimes what I see design wise in my head, doesnt always look good in real life.

I will definitely be playing around with the back. It might take me 3 more to get the right shape... who knows.

It is hard to get the right feel for the shape with the cell phone camera pics as well, they tend to distort things when you take a pic at an angle.

The front of the back is OK. I agree the rear is currently a mess, and also I think I want to extend the legs up further behind the back for better support.

I might just curve the rear of the back to match the front (its a 22" radius side to side) and then the notch in the rear legs where the back sits would not be a compound cut.

AJC

nat_wheatley

01-11-2013, 01:23 PM

Andrew,

Great looking chair. Thanks for posting, I always enjoy seeing your work.

Nat

Ajcoholic

01-11-2013, 08:16 PM

Well today I fooled around with the original chair changing the shape of the legs and seat. I am leaning towards having the front legs transition from square to round at the bottom, which I will do quickly on my lathe.

Running a heavier roundover on the underside of the seat lessens the weight of the seat.

I also ran a larger (1.5" wider and 1"deeper) seat from walnut, and I think it will suit the dining style chair better, your legs have a little more room.

The back, instead of leaving the rear side flat I ran a contour to match the front. I think this will turn out much better.

More shaping next week, and hopefully nail this thing down.

AJC

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0730_zpsf4b7d1f9.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0731_zps5f6351bc.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0718_zps52c3cc26.jpg

jerry_stanek

01-11-2013, 08:43 PM

I like the softer look of the first chair back

Ajcoholic

01-11-2013, 08:55 PM

I like the softer look of the first chair back

Jerry,
I will be shaping the back... I just didnt have a chance to get to it today. The top will be sloped like the first one, not quite sure what else I will do yet. Need some time too mull over it.

SOmetimes I get my best ideas when I am just doing other things. Then I jot down ideas for the next time Im in the shop.

I priced out the materials today also... I buy my 8/4 select black walnut for about $4.50 per board foot. I mark up my materials 65%, and there is between 16 and 18 board feet per chair with waste. So the materials cost is about $150.

AFter I have the design down, I figure there will be about 5 hours per chair plus another hour for finishing. My target selling price is in the $550 per chair range. Not bad for a custom made, solid walnut chair.

The 8 chairs, and table will be in the $6,500 to $7,000 range.

dlcw

01-11-2013, 09:31 PM

Andrew, your work is beautiful, even in the prototype stage. I look forward to seeing the finished set. Are you going to do 2 captains chairs and 6 regular chairs for this set?

Ajcoholic

01-12-2013, 09:40 AM

Andrew, your work is beautiful, even in the prototype stage. I look forward to seeing the finished set. Are you going to do 2 captains chairs and 6 regular chairs for this set?

No arm chairs Don, just 8 sides.

The table will be a large rectangular one, with 4 legs in a fixed base style, with the tops extending over the base on either end with two large leaves.

shilala

01-12-2013, 02:26 PM

Simply awesome. Well done, Andrew!!!

dlcw

01-12-2013, 02:41 PM

Ajcoholic

01-12-2013, 02:46 PM

I will be starting work for a customer in about 4 weeks on a 10' x 4' rustic hickory pedestal dining table with breadboard ends, 12 chairs (two captains chairs) and 10 bar stools. Should be a fun and challenging project.

Still trying to figure out how I'm going to manhandle the 4'x10'x1.5" thick top myself when it is all glued up. :eek: I know I'm going to do final flattening and thicknessing on WALLE. :D

Don,
You best get some help with that top! The largest single top my father and I did (we both worked on the dining room set) was about that size, but in 3" white pine. It took 4 men and a custom sling to carry the top into the house and set it onto the base. And I am not joking.

I have done a few 4' by 8' by 2" oak and maple tops in the recent past, and they were heavy enough for two guys...

Ajcoholic

01-14-2013, 07:50 PM

Now we're getting somewhere...

Today I finally settled upon a back design. I like Sam Maloof's stuff a lot, and draw inspiration from the hard & soft edges he uses a lot.

For the legs, all transition from round on the bottom back to rectangular at the seat, and then the back legs from the seat up are half round.

The back I tweaked the drawing file to better fit the concave top and scalloped bottom. I am pretty impressed with myself, I managed to do the drawing in Aspire without asking for help (the back is a complex curve sweeping both side to side and top to bottom now following the outer profiles and matching radius on the backside).

Here are some pics...

I have one more prototype to make (have all the parts almost ready for assembly) I shortened the seat depth by 1.25". I had a number of people try it out, and for shorter people like my wife, the seat depth was just a wee bit long. For me, it was perfect but I'm 6' with long legs.

Here are pics I just sanded and oiled the chair... will lacquer it and keep this one for myself as a sample.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/lou%20and%20jay%20chair/IMG_0744_zps13ff64fd.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/lou%20and%20jay%20chair/IMG_0747_zps5501db7c.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/lou%20and%20jay%20chair/IMG_0748_zps9c7d7152.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/lou%20and%20jay%20chair/IMG_0746_zpsa828c128.jpg

And that is how I go from a concept to a final design... what you dont see is the 3 or 4 rejected backs, and legs. Just keep at it until you are happy with the design. And it feels great.

Ajcoholic

01-14-2013, 07:52 PM

Here is a detail of the crest rail side edges...

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/lou%20and%20jay%20chair/IMG_0749_zpsb36bcf4e.jpg

And, of the final back design as it comes off the shopbot (with the ends trimmed on the bandsaw and cleaned up with the sander)

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/lou%20and%20jay%20chair/IMG_0751_zpsfd67b6b3.jpg

bbrozo

01-14-2013, 08:06 PM

Wow. That is beautiful. Definitely studio quality...

dlcw

01-14-2013, 08:22 PM

Sweet!!!!!

Ajcoholic

01-14-2013, 08:24 PM

Thanks Bill... its funny how you take a piece of wood, shape it a bit and knock off a few edges... and it turns into a chair! :D

It really is a simple design. I like this style of chair, that uses a heavier seat to attache the legs and does away with the stretchers. Simple, clean yet sturdy.

Like I have stated several times in the past year since I bought my Shopbot Buddy... it is for doing jobs like this that is excels - combined with Aspire, you can so easily create a shape, cut it out and work with it, change things on the fly, etc.

I bet my time to prototype a chair like this is 1/4 the time it used to be (or at least 1/3). And, for producing 4, 6 or 8 more - the time savings are very significant. My time can be spent doing the sanding and shaping, vs the tedious marking out/bandsawing/cutting mortises etc.

Thanks SHopbot!! :D:D

COBOB

01-14-2013, 08:30 PM

AJ, you are an Artist. Absolutely an Artist.

Bob

gene

01-14-2013, 09:05 PM

Can you post some photos of your shop interior ? i am curious on what type of equipment others have besides the bots.:confused:

Ajcoholic

01-14-2013, 09:26 PM

Can you post some photos of your shop interior ? i am curious on what type of equipment others have besides the bots.:confused:

Gene,
I did post pics before but let me dig up a few...

In the mean time this is a list of my equipment:

- 10", 5HP Sawstop table saw
- 14", 7.5 HP Griggio sliding panel saw (with Tigerfence)
- 20" HD Cantek Planer
- 16" HD Cantek Jointer
- tilting arbor Cantek 7.5 HP spindle shaper
- 38" wide Cantek wide belt sander (single head/ dual drum with platen)
- 108 by 6" Progress edge sander
- 8' stroke sander (Progress)
- 14" Omga radial arm saw with 28" stroke
- 10HP Ingersall Rand compressor
- General 16x48 wood lathe
- Urpematic 12 by 52 hydraulic copy lathe
- Laguna 16"HD bad saw with 5HP motor
- Concord 22 or 24" bandsaw (forget the size)
- General oscillating spindle sander
- old rockwell uniplane
- Belfab 7.5HP dust collector with Oneida cyclone

As well, I have a 12 foot spray booth, and two complete Graco 2.5 gallon pressure pot systems I use for spraying clear, and cloured catalyzed lacquers.

I also have a whole lot of hand tools, both powered (routers, sanders, etc) and hand tools (a lot of planes, saws, spokeshaves, etc). And clamps, etc all the usual woodworkign shop stuff.

I also have two small vertical mills and a metal lathe, surface grinder, welders and torches, etc to do small metal jobs and also maintenance.

Ajcoholic

01-14-2013, 09:30 PM

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Ajcoholic

01-14-2013, 09:32 PM

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Ajcoholic

01-14-2013, 09:34 PM

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0946.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0943.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0940.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0939.jpg

Does that give you a good enough idea of my shop?

All my material storage is on the opposite side of the working shop. I have a 6000 sq foot shop, but the working shop is 3200, the rest is storage.

AJC

rb99

01-15-2013, 01:16 AM

Wow! I really like the new chair. Very high end. Very designer. Very nice!

Amazing shop you have. Endless equipment.

gene

01-15-2013, 02:12 AM

myxpykalix

01-15-2013, 05:28 AM

So Andrew is that where all the magic happens?:eek: Very nice...

Brian Harnett

01-15-2013, 09:32 AM

The chair came out really nice, great proportions.

blackhawk

01-15-2013, 10:31 AM

ssflyer

01-15-2013, 01:57 PM

Beautiful shop! DROOL... :cool:

Ajcoholic

01-15-2013, 08:17 PM

I assume that this is your full time career , Woodworking ? I can tell a lot of planning went into your shop setup, Looks Great! ( cause i cant spell fabulious ! ):eek:

Definately FIRST CLASS ALL THE WAY!

Gene, yes it is my "day job".. he he (dont worry no more jokes from me.. see other thread if you dont get it)

I went to University for 3 years of Astro-physics right out of high school. Then I wised up, and decided to do another three at woodworking college, and went to work for my father right after graduating - that was 1995. Been doing it ever since!

Nothing I'd rather be doing for a living. For me its the perfect "job"... :)

Ajcoholic

01-15-2013, 08:24 PM

Andrew - First off, beautiful chair. Thanks for posting all this.

One question that I had was on the chair seat bottom. I have had a few people ask me about carving chair seats in the past. They have always turned their nose up when I gave them a price. I assume that you did a 3D model in Aspire for the seat bottom. What is your run time on just the seat bottom? What size endmill and feed rate did you use?

Thanks

Brad,
I left my work computer at the shop, but if my memory serves me correct..

I am running a 5/8" diameter Onsrud solid carbide ball end bit (two flute) at 12,000 rpm. 10% step-over (1/8") and my feeds are 180 inches per minute with the Z feed set at 60 I think.

I know it takes about 25 minutes to completely carve one seat.

I have tried a larger step-over, and saved 5 minutes or so but that time is more than made up for in additional sanding time. I am very happy with where I am at in terms of cut speed and quality.

Including set up time, I can do 2 per hour. I have cut similar seats before (in quantities of 8) and I know I can do 8 pcs, with the cutting out of the outer profile, in just about 4 hours.

AJC

Ajcoholic

01-15-2013, 08:29 PM

Hmm, I thought I had posted a thread sometime after I joined showing my shop? I guess not. Oh well, it is my home away from home.

I went from a 4,000 sq foot shop (similar equipment) which I sold turnkey in Jan 2010, and built this place in the fall of 2010/spring 2011. It will be 2 years as of this April I have been operating from this shop, and hopefully will be my last move!

Today I managed to get the third, and final prototype of the chair finished, ready for spraying tomorrow.

You can see the seat is a little less deep front to back, and the back is a little thinner and even more refined in terms of the design.

I am 100% satisfied with the design now and it will be ready to take to the client on Monday, and see if they will give me the go-ahead!

Thanks for the comments, and letting me share this... its a lot of fun!

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0766_zps86ac0024.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0767_zps1b971fa4.jpg

Beside yesterday's protoype #2...
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0772_zpsb2bacdd3.jpg

The back edge detail:
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0770_zpse18041de.jpg

phil_o

01-16-2013, 08:39 AM

Great shop, beautiful chairs. How much non CNC time is involved in making those chairs?

Phil

JimDav

01-16-2013, 12:17 PM

Simply awesome work. What happens to the prototypes? Would be fun to lurk out back by the trash dumpster sometimes :)

myxpykalix

01-16-2013, 01:09 PM

I was thinking the same thing Jim. His "rejects" are better then some of our "best" work....:D

johnnydoughey

01-16-2013, 04:14 PM

I would hope this client of yours would have enough friends to keep you busy with this one style for a good time to come! It really IS a work of art:)

Ajcoholic

01-16-2013, 08:43 PM

Great shop, beautiful chairs. How much non CNC time is involved in making those chairs?

Phil

The chair should take:

-about 1.5 hours per unit cnc time (including loading and unloading material)

-based on the prototypes, probably 3.5 hours to finish shaping, fit and assemble, final shaping and sanding, per unit.

I am figuring 5 hours construction, with an additional hour for finishing (one coat of oil, and spraying 4 coats of lacquer)

AJC

Ajcoholic

01-16-2013, 08:44 PM

Simply awesome work. What happens to the prototypes? Would be fun to lurk out back by the trash dumpster sometimes :)

I keep them for shop chairs, samples, etc. I have about 2,800 square feet of storage space in my shop. So I have a lot of room for parts :)

AJC

Ajcoholic

04-06-2013, 06:06 PM

Well its been a while since I posted - since the set wasn't due to be finished until the end of April (which kind of snuck up on me!)

I had cut all the components a while back and did all the shaping on the seats and backs, legs, etc. Then put them aside for several other jobs. Now I need to get them done so I can do the finishing and have them ready in a few weeks.

Today I finished sanding the seats, and fit and glued in the legs. I used West Systems epoxy (105 resin, 205 hardener) with some walnut sanding dust as a thickener. In much past similar work, the epoxy is pretty much indestructable and the added dust fills any small cracks around the joints.

After the glue dries the leg-to-seat joint will be hand shaped and the final sanding can be done. Then just have to sand and attach the backs and plug all the screw holes with ebony 3/8" plugs.

AJC

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0867-1_zps2bad6bde.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0871-1_zps3c099cc5.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0873-1_zps672c59c2.jpg

Ajcoholic

04-10-2013, 10:36 PM

almost there! Just finish sanding to do and then off to the spray booth...

AJC

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0875-1_zpscfddfffa.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0876-1_zps80724e55.jpg

kartracer63

04-10-2013, 10:55 PM

Those chairs are so cool! Thanks for sharing.

Ajcoholic

04-10-2013, 11:06 PM

Those chairs are so cool! Thanks for sharing.

Thanks Eric! What still amazes me is that there is no real way I could make these today, and sell them at a price someone would be willing to pay - without roughing the parts on the CNC.

SOmething like the compound curve backs - which take about 1/2 hour to carve out (and maybe an additional 45 minutes of finish shaping and hand sanding) saves me at LEAST two hours per back. Same with the seat - less than 1/2 hour to carve out a seat, and a few minutes to cut it out... saves me at least a few hours per seat.

My father did a lot of chairs when I was a kid (all manually of course). Over the past 20 years that I've been working, I have seen my chair making get fewer and fewer due to rising shop costs, etc, putting the price per chair out of the reach of most of my customers. When I started working 20 years ago our shop rate was $24/hr. I charge $70 now just to keep my doors open. So, every hour adds up. To get the cost per unit down you have to cut time... a lot.

This is actually my third set of 8 chairs, and I have also done several other singles, in the past year I've owned the machine.

This type of thing is exactly what I had in mind as the principal use of my Shopbot, when I was considering buying it. I could'nt be happier :)

myxpykalix

04-10-2013, 11:25 PM

Andrew,
What i would like to know is why you NEVER take any pictures of the many ELVES that have to be helping you. You can't possibly be doing all those yourself?:rolleyes:

I was driving by the other day and slowed down enough to hear the saws whirring and hammers pounding and the faint sound of singing coming from the shop....it sounded something like this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whnn9ReUV04

Ajcoholic

04-10-2013, 11:55 PM

MogulTx

04-11-2013, 01:13 AM

myxpykalix

04-11-2013, 02:58 AM

I'm afraid if i stop in, you'll put me to work like your other Elves (Dwarfs)...
Hi ho, hi ho...:D

Ajcoholic

04-11-2013, 09:22 PM

Well, after a day's worth of final hand sanding and a coat of danish oil.....

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_1125_zps3195e849.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/ajcoholic/media/IMG_1125_zps3195e849.jpg.html)

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_1126_zps4771f53d.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/ajcoholic/media/IMG_1126_zps4771f53d.jpg.html)

Left is before oil, right is after... I LOVE this part of the process, especially with walnut. As good as it looks raw, as soon as the oil hits the wood all the grain and colours POP! Just needs a few coats of lacquer in a few days and they'll be done.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_1121_zps5381931f.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/ajcoholic/media/IMG_1121_zps5381931f.jpg.html)

and just so people for years to come will know where they came from...

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_1123_zpscbd6e381.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/ajcoholic/media/IMG_1123_zpscbd6e381.jpg.html)

Ajcoholic

04-11-2013, 09:38 PM

Andrew,

Your work is wonderful to look at. I really enjoy seeing the chairs- especially these walnut units. If it isn't too much trouble, could you post a picture of the finished chairs? I'd love to see that wood with the finish on it. The grain seems extremely nice.

And one other thing: How is it that you go about selecting the grain section you will use for the backs? Those seem to be fairly hand-picked for centering of grain, etc. What kind of parameters do you put on that? Are you sepcifically selecting for eye-catching attributes? And what else goes into the selection process?

Thanks.

Monty

Monty,
I brought in a small lift of 8/4 walnut for this job. Obviously, laminating has to be done - for the seats, and also I make panels from which the legs are cut.

However I had just enough wide boards (8") that were free from defects (knots, checks, etc) to cut out the backs. After I dress the lumber, I selected the "best" side for the face and let the Bot carve away! I did "throw away" two backs to get my 8 that I used.

If I had to laminate the backs, it would still be OK but I was glad I had enough stock to make them one pc.

When laminating the seats I just try and get wood that looks good together.

Ajcoholic

04-18-2013, 10:18 PM

If anyone cares to see it, here is the table that goes with the set of chairs.

Just finished sanding and oiling it today. Next week I can spray lacquer on the chairs and table and it gets delivered early May.

The table is on 4 legs, but pedastal style (the base with 4 legs stay stationary, while the table expands/extends over the two ends. Size is 46" wide by 52" long with 2 leaves of 18" each.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0929_zps92263134.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/ajcoholic/media/IMG_0929_zps92263134.jpg.html)

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0926_zpsf1b6d19f.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/ajcoholic/media/IMG_0926_zpsf1b6d19f.jpg.html)

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myxpykalix

04-18-2013, 10:53 PM

Now this is the kind of stuff you will see them appraising on Antiques Road Show 2113 and explain the quality builder and his reputation, ect. make sure you brand your furniture so your great, great, great grandson can identify it to others!:D

MogulTx

04-19-2013, 11:31 AM

The oil makes the wood look so much more rich!

Ajcoholic

04-27-2013, 02:22 PM

all finished spraying the lacquer yesterday..

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/ajcoholic/IMG_0944-1_zps74020b74.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/ajcoholic/media/IMG_0944-1_zps74020b74.jpg.html)

myxpykalix

04-27-2013, 04:58 PM

Can you spell....h-e-i-r-l-o-o-m?:D
I hope you have some way of branding or identifying your work and the date so that 100 years from now people can look under there and know who made that..
beautiful...:eek:

Ajcoholic

04-27-2013, 09:20 PM

Yes Jack I have a burn in stamp now, that I use to mark my stuff. Has my company name and logo.

Unfortunately, there are almost two decades of my furniture out their that I never bothered to even put my initials on...

But that's OK. I know what I made :)

AJC

Bob Eustace

04-28-2013, 07:41 AM

Bound to make the Antiques Roadshow in a hundred years! Simply magnificent work - I'm totally gobs macked!

Marion

04-29-2013, 12:55 PM

After having seen your great work and craftsmanship and pictures of your shop there is still one thing left I wish to see. Have any applications for an Apprentices handy?:)

Ajcoholic

05-01-2013, 10:02 PM

After having seen your great work and craftsmanship and pictures of your shop there is still one thing left I wish to see. Have any applications for an Apprentices handy?:)

Well, I am always looking for someone who loves woodworking and is good at it. I have a current full time employee, and my summer student (same university "kid" I had the past two summers) starts next week.

Send me a resume' ;)