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joe
06-30-2013, 09:33 AM
Making a business pay.

Everyone who opens a sign shop ends up asking themselves, what can I do to make my business more profitable. For all of us that's a difficult question because we're so close to the subject. Self evaluation is always difficult. In general terms it can be broken down something like this.

Advertising
Product
Profit
Skills Sets

All four of these are heavy weight subjects and deserve a book. But lets skim over them just the same and see if there's something that might help.

Advertising:
More and more we see the necessity for a good website. The yellow pages aren't as powerful as once before. I'm a hawk on this topic. Here are my guidelines. Don't get carried away with lots of flash stuff and tricky expensive techno junk. What the customer wants to see is what you have to offer. A clean neat website isn't expensive and probably one of the best advertising methods. A good set of business cards are a must. Ten to twenty dollars will cover that. I also have a hand out page with nothing but pictures of my sign. I leave one of these behind at every sign contact.

Product:
All of us need to evaluate what we're offering and look for new exciting area's in which to grow. Also it's necessary to make sure each of your offerings brings in the kind of profit it should. Sometimes we get into a trap of not keeping the profit margins in line. To make sure, keep an eye on the “big guys” in the business. Most often they get it right. We have to think outside the box and look to the future.

Profit:
When looking over what you are selling, it's important to make sure there is good profit in each product, no matter how small. Another technique I've learned for other service businesses like plumbers and air conditioning guys. They itemize everything they do on their invoice. Every nut bolt and screw is charged out. Man that adds up so you should keep close watch when invoicing details. Don't let them slip by. The big picture is, we work twenty days a month. It's quiet easy to divide your income by that number of days to get a rough idea what your daily charge should be. That is after you have reduced out the operating expenses.

Skill Sets:
The most expensive part of running a business is labor. That translates to getting the work out in an efficient way. You can't cut corners with quality and get top dollars for your effort. For that reason I'm a firm believer in getting assistance. That can come from attending weekend workshops, purchasing training materials, or visiting other shops. Those casual visits are very important because they help set your perspective on how you're doing. See if you can establish a good working relationship with other fellow in the trade. With them you can swap information and get valuable tips. I, myself have dozens of these guys to call on. I'm also very keen on joining up with On-Line Forums. However you should be careful about forums in that you'll often get bad advice. You will often see posts that are way off the mark. It's not all that unusual. Be careful and follow the pro's for good help.

Joe Crumley

kartracer63
06-30-2013, 03:38 PM
All good Joe... but you forgot about hard work and desire.

joe
06-30-2013, 04:02 PM
That's right Erik. Without that making a sign business go is almost impossible. Looking back I wish I had someone to reflect off of when I started out. The Letterheads were few and far between but without them I'd probably gone broke. These little businesses are hard to make go. We need all the help we can get.

For that reason we've put together "The Creative Workshop for this fall. The scope is to focus on money making techniques, time saving methods, and finishing alternatives. For example; what are the best techniques for making HDU stable when spanning long distances? Lets say you have a HDU panel 12”X8' between posts and how do we deal with expansion between different material. And what about warping?

I'd also like to introduce a tried and proven paint “Nova Color.” Unlike other water based red and yellow paints, this one covers like a dream. I found out about it from the Walldog group. This is the material of choice for painting exterior buildings. But you need to combine the proper extenders. That way it holds extra fast. They have colors in the same range as OneShot and look very much the same. One of the big pluses for them, it comes in pints, quarts and gallons. Not so expensive either. More on that later.


I'll be showing here some of my easy wood graining samples with blending techniques. Blending takes a project to another level. Once you have that technique in your quiver you'll be seeing signs in a different way.


Our purpose is to teach what sells. We won't be making cute parrots or squirrels on stumps. We'll be after the business end of sign making. I'll be fabricating a couple of larger signs using the techniques that are being taught.This is a hands on event where everyone jumps in.


Between now and the workshop time, I'll be posting photo's showing what we will be doing.


Joe Crumley

kevin
06-30-2013, 05:02 PM
Joe

You never give up . I'am going to try and go to this class

Your right about making a living I'm interested in making money

Joe I found Sintra the best in my climate high moister its cheap thoughts ?

joe
06-30-2013, 06:31 PM
Kevin,

Good to hear from you.

Like you I'm using PVC more than I expected. The only down side is the weight. No that's not correct, It's my age which is the problem.

I'd really like to have you in this class. You and I have been working together for a long time and you'd be a perfect match to join up. We only introduced this workshop yesterday and so far we have two people wanting to sign up. It won't be long before the class closes. I'll keep a seat open for you as long as I can.

For those attending we will need an idea of what you want to learn. That way, everyone leaves with information that will further their business..

I'm sure everyone will be impressed with the Duna people.

Joe

kurt_rose
06-30-2013, 07:49 PM
Hi Joe! Glad to see you back in the main stream! :D Getting back to learning part ,I have to say that layout has to be the biggest hurdle for me. Once we learn the software, making a good looking sign is a totally different process. I consider myself an artistic person but when your making something everyone else needs to see as appealing the whole deal changes and the heat is on. Especially if your going up against other sign shops. That's to me is the thing I need to learn if my business is to succeed.

joe
06-30-2013, 08:01 PM
Kurt,

It may be that layout and design can be covered. However we may need to tackle that in the spring workshop. The reason for this is we've committed to showing the ways of using HDU and one of the sponsors is a manufacturer. I think this material has been miss understood and has been miss represented by the manufacturers from the start. So at this point we're conducting a finishing and HDU workshop.

That doesn't mean we couldn't work on a design topic but it's not a casual process and time should be devoted to it in a classroom setting. Man that would be fun. It may happen in the spring if there's enough people interested.

So come to this one and we'll do a follow up next year.

Joe Crumley

davidp
07-01-2013, 06:23 AM
Joe,

One day I would like to meet you and shoot the breeze. I would love to attend one of your classes but distance is a problem. In any event please keep posting your insights on the forum, I do not know if you realise how invaluable your advice is.

We do not cut many signs and design even less but you are always the first call when we need some advice.

Thank you.

David

bobmoore
07-01-2013, 02:57 PM
I am interested in a fall workshop if the timing is right. Do you have a tentative date and is the workshop in OK.? Most of my signs are wood as apposed to HDU. Any time to do some woodwork?
Bob Moore

joe
07-02-2013, 11:54 AM
Bob,

Thanks for your interest in the workshop. You might want to book mark this address in order to keep up with whats going on. www.sales@beckwithdecor.com.

The way the class is structured goes like this. I'll bring several full sized sign panels that have been routed and carved. These are display signs, half done, each having several techniques for completion Each student will have a chance to participate. The end goal is to end up with at least three beautifully finished sign panels.

To save time, I'll be demonstrating a new gilding technique at the start. Everyone will have a project, made just for them, to apply 23K gold. But that's a minor introduction techniques. Shouldn't take long because we have some heavy duty learning ahead.

To answer your question about time for wood working. The answer is very doubtful. Perhaps in one of the future workshops we'll be working with wood. You may want to wait.

The online application forms will be on Gary's website soon. Right now we have several people waiting to get their seats. Hope you come.

Joe Crumley

garyb
07-02-2013, 01:01 PM
Joe posted the wrong url its at
http://beckwithdecor.com/index_files/workshop.htm
gary

genek
07-04-2013, 11:35 AM
Joe your advise on making money with signs holds true to all business's if more would follow your advise they could make money with their shop bot doing signs, cabinets, toys or any products.

Thanks for sharing.

GeneMpls
07-04-2013, 12:12 PM
The reason for this is we've committed to showing the ways of using HDU and one of the sponsors is a manufacturer. I think this material has been miss understood and has been miss represented by the manufacturers from the start. So at this point we're conducting a finishing and HDU workshop.

This sounds like a great WorkShop that will aid a lot of people- thanks to
Joe and Gary. We hope to be accepted and just bought a bunch of Duna.
Gene and Wayne

joe
07-04-2013, 12:40 PM
It's so good to see so much interest in the workshop.

The intent and purpose for these events is to provide information and methods that will help ongoing sign businesses. We have limited to number of attendees to give everyone personal attention.

It looks as if the Spring Workshop will be directed to Image layout, Concepts and Design. The course objectives are to show ways to enhance curbside appeal and to break away from usual sign methods.

These a workshops are for sign businesses needing to improve their bottom line.

Joe