Brady Watson
10-04-2013, 10:42 PM
I figured I'd post a few pics of my latest vacuum project. This one is on my 5x16 PRT, but only 12' are being used with this gantry & this vacuum project. One pump is an FPz 5hp model that maxes out at 9 Hg" and 200 CFM, the other is a Becker VTLF250 10hp that specs out @ 25.5 Hg" (25.0 Hg" observed on this system) and 173 CFM. Since I have 'other things' going on at either end of the 16' table, I was forced to put the manifold in the center of the table. I guess I could have run it inline with the X axis, but that would have been cumbersome, not to mention ugly.
ShopBot vacuum kits use 2" ball valves, which are fine for most - but there is no way I am crawling under the table to turn knuckle-busting ball valves when I need to close off a zone. I bought some stainless steel paddle knife/gate valves (Valterra brand) online. At first, I got a set of plastic ones, which would be just fine under 11 Hg", but only after getting them did I realize there was a paddle implosion risk with the Becker, so I had to order up the SS ones. The gate valves are push-pull with a handle, and they are really easy to work...but I still didn't want to crawl underneath the table or come up with some goofy set of control rods; visions of John Lithgow in Buckaroo Bonzai come to mind...
I wound up ordering some pneumatic cylinders that could be remotely actuated to open and close the valves. (Thanks to Gary Campbell for sharing some part numbers) It took me a little while to get the mounts figured out, which clamp onto the valve bodies - .005" made a big difference in the clamp, which are made out of hard maple & screwed together. To keep track of all the spaghetti tubing for the actuators, I labeled them to make hook up to the switch valves easier.
All remote actuated valves are 2" & take an appropriately sized cylinder. This includes a block-off valve to seal off the FPz to prevent leakage through the pump while the Becker is running (and to keep the Becker from running the FPz backwards etc). I still need to put an actuator on the 3" valve that seals off the Becker when the FPz runs, (manual setup now). The actuators are really slick - they sound like Star Trek doors when you flip the switch!
I made a quick control panel for all the switches and used the Widget Works plotter pen to mark out where the zones were on the table, with a switch & on/off designation for each. (Thanks Russ Todd!) I made it out of a product similar to DiBond, but it is corrugated - I think it is called DLite. It was laying around & the right size, so there it is!
I had a big job that I needed it for & it proved to work very well. One thing that surprised me is the FPz shutting down in the middle of a cut, making me scramble for the e-stop. I've seen this happen before on the road and knew just what to do. Many new pumps will run fine for about a half hour or so and then suddenly shut down - this is because they start to heat up and require more amperage. I pulled the starter panel off & turned up the amperage a little, and it was rock steady after that. (Whew!)
Why 2 pumps? Well, even though the Becker is quiet as far as most high performance pumps go, it still isn't exactly quiet. Plus, depending on the job, why run 10hp if you can get the job done with 5hp? The FPz is quieter and doesn't produce as much heat as the Becker, but the performance is night & day between them. I was amazed by what the Becker will hold down even with a lot of leakage (no block offs on zone perimeter etc). Plus, I got a great deal on these pumps a few years back and I am just getting around to setting them up the way I wanted. I'm still not done tweaking & need a few things in addition to the 3" actuator for the Becker, like a filter for the FPz pressure relief valve etc. I'd also like to tidy up the spaghetti air manifold a bit to make it look cleaner.
Anyway, here are a few pics during & after:
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy8/braidmeister/VacSys1.jpg (http://s772.photobucket.com/user/braidmeister/media/VacSys1.jpg.html)
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy8/braidmeister/VacSys2.jpg (http://s772.photobucket.com/user/braidmeister/media/VacSys2.jpg.html)
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy8/braidmeister/VacSys3.jpg (http://s772.photobucket.com/user/braidmeister/media/VacSys3.jpg.html)
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy8/braidmeister/VacSysWidgetWorksPen.jpg (http://s772.photobucket.com/user/braidmeister/media/VacSysWidgetWorksPen.jpg.html)
-B
ShopBot vacuum kits use 2" ball valves, which are fine for most - but there is no way I am crawling under the table to turn knuckle-busting ball valves when I need to close off a zone. I bought some stainless steel paddle knife/gate valves (Valterra brand) online. At first, I got a set of plastic ones, which would be just fine under 11 Hg", but only after getting them did I realize there was a paddle implosion risk with the Becker, so I had to order up the SS ones. The gate valves are push-pull with a handle, and they are really easy to work...but I still didn't want to crawl underneath the table or come up with some goofy set of control rods; visions of John Lithgow in Buckaroo Bonzai come to mind...
I wound up ordering some pneumatic cylinders that could be remotely actuated to open and close the valves. (Thanks to Gary Campbell for sharing some part numbers) It took me a little while to get the mounts figured out, which clamp onto the valve bodies - .005" made a big difference in the clamp, which are made out of hard maple & screwed together. To keep track of all the spaghetti tubing for the actuators, I labeled them to make hook up to the switch valves easier.
All remote actuated valves are 2" & take an appropriately sized cylinder. This includes a block-off valve to seal off the FPz to prevent leakage through the pump while the Becker is running (and to keep the Becker from running the FPz backwards etc). I still need to put an actuator on the 3" valve that seals off the Becker when the FPz runs, (manual setup now). The actuators are really slick - they sound like Star Trek doors when you flip the switch!
I made a quick control panel for all the switches and used the Widget Works plotter pen to mark out where the zones were on the table, with a switch & on/off designation for each. (Thanks Russ Todd!) I made it out of a product similar to DiBond, but it is corrugated - I think it is called DLite. It was laying around & the right size, so there it is!
I had a big job that I needed it for & it proved to work very well. One thing that surprised me is the FPz shutting down in the middle of a cut, making me scramble for the e-stop. I've seen this happen before on the road and knew just what to do. Many new pumps will run fine for about a half hour or so and then suddenly shut down - this is because they start to heat up and require more amperage. I pulled the starter panel off & turned up the amperage a little, and it was rock steady after that. (Whew!)
Why 2 pumps? Well, even though the Becker is quiet as far as most high performance pumps go, it still isn't exactly quiet. Plus, depending on the job, why run 10hp if you can get the job done with 5hp? The FPz is quieter and doesn't produce as much heat as the Becker, but the performance is night & day between them. I was amazed by what the Becker will hold down even with a lot of leakage (no block offs on zone perimeter etc). Plus, I got a great deal on these pumps a few years back and I am just getting around to setting them up the way I wanted. I'm still not done tweaking & need a few things in addition to the 3" actuator for the Becker, like a filter for the FPz pressure relief valve etc. I'd also like to tidy up the spaghetti air manifold a bit to make it look cleaner.
Anyway, here are a few pics during & after:
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy8/braidmeister/VacSys1.jpg (http://s772.photobucket.com/user/braidmeister/media/VacSys1.jpg.html)
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy8/braidmeister/VacSys2.jpg (http://s772.photobucket.com/user/braidmeister/media/VacSys2.jpg.html)
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy8/braidmeister/VacSys3.jpg (http://s772.photobucket.com/user/braidmeister/media/VacSys3.jpg.html)
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy8/braidmeister/VacSysWidgetWorksPen.jpg (http://s772.photobucket.com/user/braidmeister/media/VacSysWidgetWorksPen.jpg.html)
-B