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joe
12-14-2013, 05:37 PM
Here's my experience using Sikkens.


To the best of my knowledge this is one of the best if not the best UV treatment for raw wood. Any time I have questions about their product a call to their technical department gets quick, concise answers.


Sikkens comes in several versions. I've used three of them. Their SRD comes in several transparent colors. It's best to use a shade lighter than what their samples show. As you know most woods darken with age so I often bleach my panels with two part wood bleach first. That's the bleach flooring contractors use. While the SRD is adequate for interior work, their Log and Siding is what I use for most exterior work. It also comes in several colors and is at least twice as thick as their SRD and about double the cost.


Sikkens does not recommend a surface sealer like shellac or anything else prior to application. That will void their warranty. My practice had been to precoat boards with shellac, there by controlling the depth of color saturation. They want it to go directly down on the wood. So you need to be careful with your color choices. One coat is all that's recommended Several coats will seal off the wood preventing it from breathing. This can causing permanent damage.


Another of their products is Door and Sash. It's like Log and Siding, very thick. I use it for blending. There are few of my signs without some kind of blend. That techniques makes a sign look more custom and is easy to do. You can start out by coating the entire panel with your lighter shade and then open a can of a darker shade and apply it around the edges. These materials take some time to set up so there's plenty of time to blend them with a dry brush technique. I often take old rags in the blending process to move the stain around.


You must have good ventilation and a paint mask is advisable. This stuff will make you sick at your stomach.

khaos
12-14-2013, 07:39 PM
Nice blend Joe. Its a good accent but doesn't bully the message. :)

genek
12-15-2013, 03:56 PM
Very nice job like the blend of colors. one question is that 1 inch boards glued up or is that 2 inch boards glued up.

kevin
12-15-2013, 07:22 PM
Thanks Joe for your time the ceder looks amazing .

The white coat looks so clean like a doctor

VanIslanddan
12-15-2013, 09:25 PM
Thank you for sharing your experience and insight. It looks like you have both applied letters with colour and painted letters. Do you use Nova paint over Sikkens? Anything you can share on combinng solid colour with Sikkens is apriciated.

joe
12-15-2013, 10:32 PM
Exterior signs should be from 2" boards.
Most of my lettering is applied DiBond, PVC, or HDU. That gives extra depth and can be painted even before the routing takes place. Textures can also be applied to graphics like tree's.

A big paddle bit is used to clear away the Sikkens and E6000 glue goes in the holes.

Watch out for dark colored letters and graphics going over stains. They can be hard to see. Not enough contrast.

blackhawk
12-16-2013, 11:12 AM
Joe - The technical data sheet that I have for Sikkens Cetol Log & Siding says to apply two coats. This is what I have always done. After the first coat the sheen is very splotchy. The second coat always helps the sheen appear more uniform in my experience.

bobmoore
12-18-2013, 09:11 AM
Brad; That is correct. Log and siding needs multiple coats for appearance and better performance. They used to recommend 3 coats for maximum performance but have dropped all reference to that. Even 2 coats will add to more even appearance and definately help it last longer before recoating. Perhaps Joe was referring to the SRD line which I don't use and am not familiar with. Bob

cowboy1296
05-29-2014, 04:59 PM
Typically I like sealing my letters and then staining them to prevent bleeding. This is made from black walnut and goes out to my favorite Vet Support group in Texas. It will be hung outside in a covered walk way. So no sun but lots of Texas humidity. Hence i went with Sikkens Log and Siding. Chances are i should have asked this question prior to adding the sikkens. But and there is always a but: Can i still add gel stain to the letters with another coat of sikkens on top, or just forget the gel stain. I do like the way sikkens looks on the black walnut.

Now just to cover one question before it might come up about name rights. Chris Kyles parents were at the dedication ceremony at this vet support organization.

bleeth
05-29-2014, 06:26 PM
I would forget the stain at this point unless I made up a sample out of some scrap to test first. Sikkens is not really made to play nice with other products.