been a while...

[gc3]

pr still pumping out the product...

[jerry_stanek]

Hey Gene how much longer will it take to recover your money from the PR.:)

[gc3]

Jerry-

Hard to say how long ago it did that...

this run for the pr, 10 blanks, 40 individual panels $90 each panel

have maybe 6k total into machine

took awhile to make a market but finally we are booked with work for both machines...

[jerry_stanek]

I always like to see your work. It shows that you can do wonderful work with these so called low end units.

[gc3]

centers cut, running outline, angles next...all for another shop. they deliver blanks and pick up...all we do is cut...nice!

[gc3]

starting to come together...310 panels cut of 400

[myxpykalix]

75% done...keep on chuggin....
btw..who's your "helper"?

[road_king]

Gene,

Nice work as usual.

Gerald

[Bob Eustace]

Gene are all of these being installed at the same site? Could be awesome!

[gene]

What are they using them for ? 400 , thats a lot of dust :D

[gc3]

exterior,interior doors, windows, cabinet doors...big home being built here 20k sq feet...thx for the comments

[gc3]

pr still cuttin panels...gonna surface the table one day

[genek]

pr still cuttin panels...gonna surface the table one day

why surface sill cutting isn't it. lol You table looks as bad as mine lol..

[myxpykalix]

Great work Gene...
My table looks worse then that Gene:eek:

I can't make up my mind whether to think of my scarred up spoilboard like it has notches on it from successful gunfights, or dents on it from car wrecks:eek:

I guess you can just call me Quick Draw McGraw:rolleyes::D

[srwtlc]

Awesome Gene, you should hang those table surfaces on the wall, they're a work of art by themselves!

[gc3]

done...393-400 :)

[MogulTx]

Gene,

So these were individual screens of about 1 ft sq each? And it kept the Bot busy how many days?

Now if they will come back from some custom mouldings, window dressings, doors, etc.... they will make your 2014 for you!

[gc3]

sizes varied from 12 x 12 to 36 x 44...more designs on their way, didn't really keep track of the days but both machines have been running just about every day since last sept on these panels and other projects, we be busy!

[myxpykalix]

did you get paid yet? Was it in dollars or pesos'?:eek::D

[gc3]

Jack, both dlls and pesos...waiting on final draw, 30%

more panels added...wait till you see the ones for the main entry...:D

[gene]

Is that a chamfer bit in the machine ? What are you going to do when you get done?

[gc3]

bits used for most of the panels 3mm end mill 22mm 90 deg vbit. machines booked solid until july with various projects...took a while, 3 yrs but the snowball effect is happening for the cnc part of this business...we are starting to be known as the go to shop for outsourcing of specialty parts for other shops in los cabos :)

[kevin]

Gene its nice to see you kicking ass .Its seems only yesterday by the beach running solo now 5 employes big iron cnc

I would love to see some of though carvings installed

Thanks for the post the ceiling is my favorite

[gc3]

next week production schedule panels A B C on the pr

[scottp55]

Thanks for posting that Gene, Nice to see one way that people stay organized for production. We're still doing "one of's" at 2 locations and our current method(or lack of:) is turning into chaos. That kind of print out page looks a good page for us both to get on.:)

[gc3]

panel b completed, centers 3:13 angles 1:55 1030mm x 2114mm x 20mm

[tom_fiddler]

What wood are you using?
And do you make the "blanks" ?

[Ajcoholic]

That's crazy! So much cutting.. :D. Looks great!

[gc3]

What wood are you using?
And do you make the "blanks" ?

these panels, spanish cedar, other shop fabs the blanks...all we do is cut designs

[Ajcoholic]

these panels, spanish cedar, other shop fabs the blanks...all we do is cut designs

Man your shop must smell great! I love Spanish cedar, it's one of my favourite woods actually. Pretty pricy up here.

[gc3]

panel "e" although cut on other machine...pr set up next week for other panels

[genek]

panel "e" although cut on other machine...pr set up next week for other panels
how thick is your wood looks like about 2 " what bit did you use.

[genek]

panel "e" although cut on other machine...pr set up next week for other panels
the larger cut outs.. if enough meat and wood would make some boxes out of them. would look great with the shape.

[scottp55]

Gene, What have you found is best for sanding something like that? Or do you know how your customer does it? Would love to see finished product. What are times like on these thicker panels. Good work!

[pappybaynes]

He is using Spanish Cedar...it sands like butter

[David Iannone]

I think it's just great to see the PR still keeping up. I know you got the 4g board. That is my next business upgrade for my prt.

[gc3]

in progress...

[scottp55]

NICE:) 10 letters:( VERY NICE!!:)

[gene]

Now that's nice!:eek:

[Ajcoholic]

Wow, that's very impressive!

[gc3]

here's what some of the panels look like...

[scottp55]

Gene, That natural finish door came out beautiful!

[kevin]

Gene it nice to see them installed they look great the color is great
The finishing must be huge in time how long?
Thank for posting

[gc3]

panel project completed...a total of 455 cut by both machines

on to the next...simple 2d pocket sign

[myxpykalix]

455 huh? You must be rolling in the dough:rolleyes: You do excellent work!:D

[scottp55]

Gene, Dad just drove down for the day and we got talking, at one point he said "There's not much artistic production work out there, and if there is there's no way to make a business of it". Scrambled to find your thread as it popped into my mind first. He apologized and said if I ever got the chance to tell you "He does Da-- fine work and I'm impressed". He left 5 minutes ago to visit Abacus in town(I made him promise), to see the market I'm after. Good work.:)

[gc3]

soon...http://www.vectorstudio22.com/

[scottp55]

Congrat's on the write up Gene :)
http://www.vectric.com/cool-stuff/case-studies/vcp/2014/genecrain/genecraincasestudy.html

[gc3]

sold- learned a lot with this machine-end of thread.

[myxpykalix]

So does that mean you no longer have a Shopbot?:eek:

[steve_g]

“It's not uncommon for an individual or business to "outgrow" their machine... A crafter can get more work than his smaller machine can keep up with or a cabinet shop can't keep up with demand using their middle size tool. These are good problems! Rather than be upset that such and so brand tool can't do the job, recognize a tools limitations and be glad it got you to the point where you need something else! The tool you buy is often determined by your volume of work.”

A quote from my up and coming book…
Gene… personally, I look forward to your continued posts no matter what machine you use!
SG

[scottp55]

Same here, Please don't stop posting--Always love to see your stuff!

[myxpykalix]

That's ok.....we didn't like him anyway...:rolleyes:




(it's ok....he knows i'm kidding:D)

[johnh]

I dig the Desert Racing looking Trophy Truck setting there.. Is that your daily driver?

[gene]

About how much revenue did the old bot bring in from an investment point?
Was it the first cnc you purchased?

The reason I ask is that by bot was the first cnc I purchased . As for learning cnc it has been a wonderful road to go down . It is ( at the time I purchased my ) bot a entry level machine and it has done wonderful for me to learn on .
If I were to purchase another cnc it would have more bells and whistles '
Its kind of like my motorcycles . My first one was a Honda , but now I ride a Harley.

[gc3]

Jack-no longer have a bot and I think I know your kidding...

Steve/Scott-thank you

John-foto is in front of new owners shop and that's his truck

Gene-sold the machine for what I had invested in it $7500...easily paid for itself at least 3 times

thanks to everyone for the comments over the last few years

latest project on other machine...

[scottp55]

NICE Gene! That must have taken a while. Where is that location it was displayed in? What wood is it(every I look at the pics I change my mind:).
Have you done work like that before? Site is still not up and I can't remember.
Great work!

[myxpykalix]

Gene...of course i'm kidding:D But this doesn't relieve you of your obligation to still post pics of stuff you are making.:)

[gc3]

alder...scott that "display" photo is piece in the shop, we wanted to check how well it would sit on the cleat for installation in the clients home

this photo is installed...

[kevin]

Gene it looks amazing but color on the wall

[steve_g]

Ha!... I agree with Kevin, It looked better hanging on the wall in the shop.
SG

[gc3]

well that's a typical color here in Mexico...

start of another project

[steve_g]

“A typical color…”
I imagine my pastel and cream walls would look totally blah in Mexico!
Will this project be a fireplace surround?
SG

[myxpykalix]

Gene,
It sure seems like you stay busy with plenty of work:eek:
Good for you!:D

[gene]

What software are you doing your design work in ? Aspire ?

[gc3]

all line art done in vcp in house designer uses 3d studio to generate stls toolpathed in ac express

[myxpykalix]

Gene I thought you were the in house designer? If you can afford one on the payroll then you must be doing good:D
Good for you!:)

[gene]

look at the work he is producing. darn right he is doing great ...I wish I knew how to spell fabulous....

[myxpykalix]

since he's in mexico fabulous should be in spanish........fabuloso:D

[kevin]

Gene can art cam express do your rendering if so how many modules did it take.
Looks like on the next cnc extra z height

Looks great .In Canada they tend to keep color nu-trial off white grey etc.Thats why all kitchens are getting painted white where getting boring

[chiloquinruss]

Terrific work. A real art piece for sure. Russ

[gc3]

got a little weather movin' in...

nhc latest advisory...

THE CORE OF ODILE WILL PASS NEAR OR OVER THE
SOUTHERN PORTION OF BAJA CALIFORNIA SUR TONIGHT AND MONDAY.
ABOUT 185 MI...300 KM SSE OF THE SOUTHERN TIP OF BAJA CALIFORNIA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...135 MPH...215 KM/H
A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE WARNING AREA BY MONDAY MORNING. PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.
RAINFALL...ODILE IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES WITH ISOLATED TOTALS OF AROUND 15 INCHES IN AREAS OF MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN ACROSS THE MEXICAN STATES OF BAJA CALIFORNIA SUR...COLIMA...JALISCO...AND WESTERN MICHOACAN.

[genek]

got a little weather movin' in...

nhc latest advisory...

THE CORE OF ODILE WILL PASS NEAR OR OVER THE
SOUTHERN PORTION OF BAJA CALIFORNIA SUR TONIGHT AND MONDAY.
ABOUT 185 MI...300 KM SSE OF THE SOUTHERN TIP OF BAJA CALIFORNIA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...135 MPH...215 KM/H
A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE WARNING AREA BY MONDAY MORNING. PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.
RAINFALL...ODILE IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES WITH ISOLATED TOTALS OF AROUND 15 INCHES IN AREAS OF MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN ACROSS THE MEXICAN STATES OF BAJA CALIFORNIA SUR...COLIMA...JALISCO...AND WESTERN MICHOACAN.

How close to you.. Be safe my friend. Do not take chances with your life or the life of your family.. Do not send the family away to worry about you, Go with them if you have to send them away.

[scottp55]

Get SAFE Gene! Good Luck!!

[gc3]

current tracking shows almost direct hit...eye passing just west of us 15-20 miles shop is a bomb shelter, safest place to be

[scottp55]

Let us know how you made out so we don't wonder, please.
Be Safe.

[myxpykalix]

get some nice heavy tarps to cover your machine then crawl in underneath it, probably the safest place! :eek:

[bleeth]

Well, it's past Gene now. Went right over his town with 115 sustained and gusts to 135. Strongest to ever hit Baja. His shop should be fine and it sounds like that's where he's weathering it. The only issue with those kind of buildings tends to be the bay doors. Cheaper ones have been known to blow out.
Might be a bit till we hear from him as there is likely utility outage all over.
Cabo is on generators this morning and he's in a smaller town nearby.

[scottp55]

Thanks for update Dave. I'll take a NorthEaster any day.

[Brady Watson]

Gene - I hope you're OK down there, buddy! I just saw some pics and it looks like it was a whopper. Give us a shout when you can...

-B

[gc3]

Its crazy serious stuff i net hard to find we r ok thx

[scottp55]

Great news Gene!! Thanks.:)

[kurt_rose]

Great to hear Gene! Glad you and your family are ok.

[ssflyer]

Hey Gene! Sure glad to hear you and your family made it through OK!

[gc3]

taken a few months but shop up and busy

current project, ceiling from 64mm alder panels...3 sections 1200mm x 3500mm using v carve pro and artcam express for toolpaths. 3d model made in 3dstuidio

still cutting samples for Arq, designer. here first looks at file

[scottp55]

Going to make an opulent ceiling for someone.
You must be the "Go To" guy for designers by now :)
I think that would qualify as a "Masters Piece" back in the Guild days! :)

[MogulTx]

Reminds me of the decoration on old buildings, especially mosques in the middle east. Very old looking, classical decoration. Will be fabulous.

Glad you are back to functioning and booking work!

[danhamm]

Another "WOW" Gene, you must get tired of doing all that gorgeous work. lol..yah right.

[gc3]

Another "WOW" Gene, you must get tired of doing all that gorgeous work. lol..yah right.


lol...just another day in the studio. love it when client comes into door with a design like this and ask us..."can you do this?"...

"yeah...we can, give us a couple days to set it up"...

all fun aside...this will be another huge job for us...another major challenge to pull this off

[myxpykalix]

Well it looks to me like you met the challenge and exceeded it! Good job:D

[MogulTx]

Seeing your sample section really makes me smile. Very cool stuff Gene.

Monty

[gc3]

something else we working on...a fun project

[genek]

If you think this is good You should follow Gene on Facebook. I get to see all kinds of great work that Gene and his men do.
Gene is an inspiration to follow and to try to be as good as he is.

[David Iannone]

Details looks great on your work.

[gc3]

solid wood- hdu...not available here

sapele 17mm, 45mm stuff cuts very clean and crisp and is stable

[danhamm]

Would be fun, to see Gene turned loose in "Drug Lords Mansion" where money is no object, just sayin.....

[gc3]

jaja Dan...so i gonna let the cat outta the bag

another shop and I are working together on quoting a project starting mid '15...designers have visited shop with some crazy ideas...we are all very excited about the project

92K sq foot home in a very exclusive development here...

[scottp55]

Just trying to imagine a 2.11 acre HOUSE!!:eek:

[gc3]

panels under the knife...

[scottp55]

How many people to LIFT that? :)

[MogulTx]

Gene,

That's the roughing path for one of the ceiling decorations, right? 5' x 10'? about 3" thick? How long for the roughing path and how long for the finishing path of something that big??? And what % of the wood is left when the machining is complete? 30%?

[gc3]

tiled toolpaths for each panel...pocket-roughing-finish 75mm thick panel machining depth 47mm don't know % left...all i know is it's a lot of chips...

[gc3]

starting to take shape...close to 72hrs for completed panel...lots of chips

[MogulTx]

Gene,

You must give the customers a rate that is in consideration of long run times... in other words not a retail rate if you can do 1 set up and turn it on and walk away for a long number of hours and let her run... ( Yes. Yes. A "checkup" every now and then, but not constant vigilance)

Is it a percentage after X time or what?

(Oh: And YES, I love the great stuff we see you doing!)

Monty

[David Iannone]

72 Hrs......wow. That is hugh. Keep up the great work. Since you sold the PR do you have plans to buy another CNC to replace it? Thanks for the pics.

Dave

[gc3]

first panel done...

[David Iannone]

Nothing like a good picture of a working shop in action. I wish i was making more wood chips.

Actually this year I hope to start to be able to contribute and post some pics of my progress too. These are the posts that I read this forum for. Inspiration, pictures are better to me than a bunch of mumbo jumbo

Dave

[gc3]

few fotos of the floor...

[scottp55]

Thanks for pics of shop Gene,
I'd hate to heat it(0F here), but it does look hurricane proof.
How will those be supported? Off coffer beams?

[chiloquinruss]

I'd hate to heat it! Ahhhh the following data is off the net and you know they never lie! The annual average temperature is 78 °F (26 °C). :D Russ

[scottp55]

Should have said I'd hate to cool it:)
I'd probably melt(Gimps melt easy) :)
7F warmer than Gene's average day ....and I call it a day!
Really nice shop Gene!!

[gc3]

panel 2 out for delivery...#3 ready for the knife

cabinets with hand carved panels

[gc3]

done...total 224 hrs total machine time over many days, paused at various times to change bits and run to store for cold 'uns...time to clean up, rest couple days then on to the next...jambs with panels and sign for hotel

[Brady Watson]

Nice!

Looks like you are rockin' & poppin again after the storm :)

-B

[gc3]

Como parte del workshop realizaremos una visita a las instalaciones de Vector Studio 22, donde podremos presenciar una demostración del uso y aplicaciones en diseño de un CNC router, una de las muchas herramientas de fabricación digital ya disponibles en Los Cabos.

[David Iannone]

Perfect!

I don't know that language. (I could google it)

But the picture tells me what the words mean.

Dave

[Brady Watson]

Como parte del workshop realizaremos una visita a las instalaciones de Vector Studio 22, donde podremos presenciar una demostración del uso y aplicaciones en diseño de un CNC router, una de las muchas herramientas de fabricación digital ya disponibles en Los Cabos.

Cool! Is this your 1st of this type, or do you do this every year?

-B

[gc3]

did something similar a couple years ago. This workshop a little better organized, should be fun.