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tlempicke
10-30-2014, 06:43 PM
After seeing Andrew Coholics table I decided that I needed one. I made a couple of changes and thought I would write them up in case anyone is interested.

Rather than the 5/16 T slot I wanted 1/4 inch material. The tracks come out to be exactly one inch apart, which makes a lot of things easier. I bought it from the 80/20 surplus store on Ebay. Supposedly it is cheaper than you can buy otherwise, and it is, by about 10 cents per piece. What really was a good deal though was the shipping. It was only $70 for two day UPS. Here is what I ordered. 8020 T Slot Aluminum Extrusion 10 S 1030 x 60 N.
Each piece was 60 inches long and cost $34.95. So the entire table, 20 pieces, 3 inches wide, was $850 delivered.

For the rail and bearings I found, again on E bay, an outfit with the name econvenience1986.
I am including their name because the two rails and bearings cost $270 shipped to me. It arrived in about four days and was shipped via Fed Ex for that price. What I ordered was 2X TBR16-2000mm 16MM SUPPORTED LINEAR RAIL+ 4 TBR16UU Router Bearing
The quality that I got was first rate.

The 1 1/2 by 2 inch angle came from Online Metals. http://www.onlinemetals.com

I sourced the hardware from McMaster Carr. Expensive(relatively) but fast and they do have the stuff. I went with all grade eight cap screws and elastic stop nuts. BTW do not buy T slot hardware from McMaster. I is a LOT cheaper on Ebay.

First step was to make up a drill jig so that I could use the drill press to drill the holes. Made out of scrap aluminum it is a three position deal. Drill the two holes in the center to fasten to the PowerStick, slide left and drill two holes, slide right and drill two holes. The only holes left to hand drill are the ones in the 1/4 thick angle that supports the rail.

I first mounted one piece of the Tslot to the PowerStick track. I then used a dial indicator to make sure that it was dead on parallel to the Y axis. See the picture. After that I re-mounted the indicator and used it to true the piece for flatness and tighten down the pieces that hold the bearings to the sides of the Buddy. Predictably the Tslot was drooping about 70 thousandths from the weight of the rails and of its own weight. I made up a jack out of a piece of scrap aluminum and a bolt to jack each side up so I could fasten down the bearings. After about 20 minutes of fiddling I got the slot within .002 from end to end.

To fasten the rest of the tracks I would move the X axis so that the Tslot being put on was just about over the bearing on that side. This way the bearing is truing the angle for me so that the Tslot is not exerting any force on the assembly.

I fastened down a piece of 3/4 inch ply as a spoil board. The first pass was at zero depth and it shaved a couple of areas of the board where it was a bit thick. The second pass was at a depth of .015 and I was rewarded by having the cutter make a complete cut with no voids at all.

First project was a plastic sign that was engraved .020 deep. Perfection!

This is a worthwhile project that will really extend the capabilities of your Buddy! Thanks Andrew!

Ajcoholic
10-30-2014, 09:37 PM
Cool stuff :)

I am so very happy with my table - just so much better than the MDF I was using.

I am sure you will also appreciate yours, and the more you use it the more you appreciate the accuracy.

More photos please, if you get a chance.

tlempicke
10-31-2014, 07:24 AM
Those were taken with a phone camera. Over the next day or so I will take a decent camera out to the shop and get some good photos.

Ajcoholic
11-10-2014, 08:54 PM
Those were taken with a phone camera. Over the next day or so I will take a decent camera out to the shop and get some good photos.

Tom, I am seriously interested in your take on the table (more pics that is) if you are still able.

Plus I am sure more lurkers would like to see it as well.

AJC

tlempicke
11-11-2014, 12:27 PM
Sorry about that. I got busy and forgot. Here are some more pix taken with a better camera.

tlempicke
11-11-2014, 12:29 PM
Here are acouple more pix

Ajcoholic
11-11-2014, 08:56 PM
OK now those are better :) Looks great! Your bearing blocks for the linear rail look like cnc machined bar stock - not like the plain Chinese ones I bought :D

So far other than that one bad bearing I had early on, things are working very well. I keep my rails clean (good dust collection and use compressed air to keep the rails clean each time I use it) and I hope they will last.

Cool table!

tlempicke
11-12-2014, 07:32 AM
No they are just the plain jane chinese bearings. They certainly work well and the table is just as smooth as glass as it runs. I have in mind to put an oiler and wiper right next to each bearing but machining aluminum makes such a mess that I have not gotten around to it yet.

tomkbud
08-12-2016, 06:53 PM
Tom, Andrew.....

They say that imitation is the highest form of flattery. Well, you both have inspired me to add an aluminum T-track table to my new Buddy Alpha BT48-12, very similar to both of yours. I am taking a slightly different path, since I also want to mount my 6" indexer parallel to the Y axis, and I want to be able to move the table between the standard powerstick and the 4 ft one (6 ft long) as I need it. I don't have room in my shop to keep the 4' powerstick on all the time, and most of my work will fit OK on the 2' x 4' standard space.

I also went with 8020 aluminum, but used 3075 extrusion (3/4" x 3", with 5/16" slots on 1.5" centers). I am fastening each of them to a piece of 1/4" aluminum 6" wide x 48" long, to in turn fasten to the powerstick under the extrusions. I used my ShopBot to create an MDF jig to square the extrusions with the aluminum plate. Since the tool created the 90, I know it will be dead on parallel to the Y axis when I mount it parallel to the powerstick. I bought the 8020 from the Amazon store, at a total of $596 for 16 pcs, 60 in long. I also got 1.5 x 2 x 0.25 x 4 ft aluminum angle for each edge. I bought 2 sets of 1450mm long 16mm mounted bearing rods including 2 sets of SBR16UU bearing blocks for a total of $200, from the Ten-High Amazon store.
I'm still putting it together. Lots of drilling and tapping. When I get a minute I'll snap some pics and post them.

One note: When complete my table will weigh a bit north of 125 lbs. I checked with SB tech support and they said they've tested Buddy's with 500 lbs on the power stick with no missed steps (on an alpha), so I should be good.

I just wanted to take a minute and thank Andrew and Tom and all that post on this great forum for my their inspiration and help with things like this.

Tom

tlempicke
08-13-2016, 06:34 AM
Just quick follow up
Andrew discovered, and now so have I, that you need just a little flexibility where the linear bearings mount to the sides of the Shopbot. I am about to re-make the mounting plates for the bearings and make them a bit longer so that they fasten one notch higher up. This will allow them to flex just a little bit in the "Y" direction. Hopefully this will take some of the transverse load off of the bearings and make them last a bit longer.

Ajcoholic
08-13-2016, 03:31 PM
Good to hear someone else is trying a similar thing out.

Two years on- I have had zero bearing issues, table runs as smooth as you could ask for. The extra weight doesn't hurt one bit.

My only further mod was to use a few more bolts to hold the Starboard plenum to the aluminum deck. When cutting several hours with the vacuum under the table, the heat would cause the plastic to bow slightly between the original bolts.

I can still remove the plenum in a matter of minutes, plug the two vacuum holes, and get setup for clamp down cuts using the t track aluminum top.

The biggest advantage is having the ability to machine sheet goods and be accurate to 5 thousands in depth.

Since I did this mod in summer of 2014 I bet I use the machine 5 times if not more, as much. Very much more of a versatile all around cutting machine.

tomkbud
08-20-2016, 08:14 PM
As promised, although a bit late, here's some pics of my new extruded aluminum table I described in an earlier post. I incorporated all the suggestions made in this forum, and it came out great. Dead flat and square, parallel to the Y axis, smooth operating, and very stable. I've already discovered it has solved some other problems I was having, like uneven spoil board machining. I can't wait to try my indexer on it.

Again, thanks to Andrew and Tom for their example and suggestions. As a result, my build went very smoothly.

Tom

tomkbud
08-20-2016, 09:02 PM
Sorry, the pics disappeared. Chalk it up to not understanding the pic post process. I'll try and figure it out. I did notice that when I first tried to upload pics it made them really small - what trick am I missing to make them as large as some I've seen here?

Tom

Ajcoholic
08-20-2016, 09:03 PM
Sorry, the pics disappeared. Chalk it up to not understanding the pic post process. I'll try and figure it out. I did notice that when I first tried to upload pics it made them really small - what trick am I missing to make them as large as some I've seen here?

Tom

I've used photobucket to host pics since I started on the Internet. I've never had an issue and don't bother trying to upload to any forum directly.

Dish
08-21-2016, 08:33 AM
Sorry, the pics disappeared. Chalk it up to not understanding the pic post process. I'll try and figure it out. I did notice that when I first tried to upload pics it made them really small - what trick am I missing to make them as large as some I've seen here?

Tom

The picture are small because they are like a thumbnail once clicked on the get larger.

tomkbud
08-21-2016, 11:33 AM
Sorry, but I meant the pics are only 362x272 after clicking the thumbnail.

tomkbud
08-21-2016, 11:56 AM
I'm now trying to post the pics larger on Win 10 via Parallels on my mac, after resizing with irfanview as suggested here. Hope they come through this time the correct size.

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Ajcoholic
08-21-2016, 12:16 PM
I'm now trying to post the pics larger on Win 10 via Parallels on my mac, after resizing with irfanview as suggested here. Hope they come through this time the correct size.

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Pics are fine for me. Looks good. Deja vu!! Lol

sc67jam
11-30-2022, 08:49 PM
Mr. Limpicke, I have bought all the aluminum to complete the table, could you tell what hardware you use to attach the table to the powerstick? Thank you, John