"stop on"

[Kenny_BTFP]

I recently had a power outage to the breaker panel that feeds my shopbot. After having an electrician look over the panel I have powered on today to find that the 3-button pendant is not working properly. The number for input #4 is RED. When i release the E-stop and press the reset button input #4 becomes highlighted, but the number itself stays RED. Output #4 then turns off. When i attempt to utilize any kind of motion i get a warning that tells me to "reset the stop button." Also, after i press reset i get a warning graphic in the control window that say "STOP ON" in red and yellow.

I have checked the box, everything is connected properly as well as nothing seems to be damaged from the power outage. Does anyone have an understanding or experience with this issue?

[Kyle Stapleton]

Had this happen.
Try redownlaoding your drivers.

[donek]

Most of the limit switches are on the same circuit. Run the machine past your x and y limits and the one that is stuck will likely unstick itself.

[Kenny_BTFP]

I have uninstalled and reinstalled the control software. I have run all of the updates and still no change. Since i cant get the gantry to move I used a wrench to trigger the proximity sensors which reset the stop/reset temporarily in the software, but overall didnt change anything. When i release the E-stop and press "reset" button i still get the "Stop On" icon in the control window along with Input 4 still having a red number and input 3 having a yellow number.

[bleeth]

Kenny: It sounds like a wiring issue. Make sure all your leads, especially the grounds, are properly secured at the control box again. Make sure you do not have a pinched line somewhere between the switches and the control box.
I assume you have shut everything down, left it off for 30 seconds or so, and rebooted.

[jerry_stanek]

Make sure your number 4 input for the E stop is set correctly in values VN my defaults to normally closed but my stop is normally open also the limit inputs may be wrong You could go into tools and run the setup.

[Kyle Stapleton]

How often do you use your estop?
If it is almost never you may need to clean/fix the button.

This also happened the first time we hit the estop after the bot was sitting for a long time.

[Kenny_BTFP]

Thank you all for you help and input. Ultimately I had to reset to factory settings. Something with the power outage caused causing the system to shutdown improperly resulted in the default values being reset and some options no longer available to manually reset. With the factory reset everything is back up and running.

[cowboy1296]

My router wont start when i load a tool path. however if i do the command SO 1 it runs fine. starting like it should and stopping like it should. The input lights 2 and 3 are both red and green. If i hit the estop it flashes bright red

I half way think that the problem is in my key, but i dont know that for sure. Everyone keeps talking about a reset button in the control box of the buddy prs, but where is it.

Any suggestions?

[jerry_stanek]

Do a tr command and click on the rpm and see if there is a 1 in the set up sheet

[cowboy1296]

Just did it and yes there is

[donek]

My router wont start when i load a tool path. however if i do the command SO 1 it runs fine. starting like it should and stopping like it should. The input lights 2 and 3 are both red and green. If i hit the estop it flashes bright red

I half way think that the problem is in my key, but i dont know that for sure. Everyone keeps talking about a reset button in the control box of the buddy prs, but where is it.

Any suggestions?

Could you be using a post processor that is not including the command to turn your router on? In other words, is there actually a SO,1,1 in the file?

[cowboy1296]

The only thing that i have done in recent days was to move all of the PP's that i am not using into their own file and kept this PP by itself in Aspire.. Surely that did not create my problem. I am also running a router.

[jerry_stanek]

That doesn't show spindle control like this one

[adrianm]

There have been loads of different Post Processors for the ShopBots so it's hard to say just from it's name. If it's the standard one of that name that comes with Aspire then it should be fine but the only way to be 100% certain is to edit it and make sure it has the SO commands in it.

The spindle control adds rpm control but the standard one should stop and start it.

SB3 ships with the most up to date Post Processor that does everything in one.

[jerry_stanek]

If I use the one Rick posted from my Aspire that is Version 3.5 then it will not start my spindle. I need the one that says with spindle control

[cowboy1296]

I honestly dont think that it is the PP. The cutting that i was doing had about 5 v carve tool paths. I was successful in cutting at least 2 and it did not start showing a problem until the 3rd tool path. I went back to one of the files that I had correctly started and cut to see if there was a problem and the problem was still there.

I keep reading about a reset button in the control box but i have no idea where it is at. Can someone fill me in here.

[Brady Watson]

Are you able to run any file successfully now? If not, post up the first 25 lines of the SBP that won't run. Just copy from the SBP and paste here.

-B

[barrowj]

After switching to Aspire recently, the SO,1,1 wasn't appearing in my .sbp files so I posted on the forum. Brady advised me to use one that he posted here:
http://www.talkshopbot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20941

[adrianm]

I honestly dont think that it is the PP. The cutting that i was doing had about 5 v carve tool paths. I was successful in cutting at least 2 and it did not start showing a problem until the 3rd tool path. I went back to one of the files that I had correctly started and cut to see if there was a problem and the problem was still there.

I keep reading about a reset button in the control box but i have no idea where it is at. Can someone fill me in here.

Not 100% sure but isn't the reset button only on the Alpha versions of the ShopBots?

[cowboy1296]

Not sure what machines the reset button is on. I have a buddy 32, prs standard.

I have cut several tool paths since i have noticed a problem. but most were successfully after i executed the SO 1 command.

I need to do a large 3-d cutting starting today. I will start the roughing today after rebooting everything. I will report back what i see.

FYI i never trusted 3.8 control software and i am still running 3.6. can anyone say that the latest version of 3.8 is working properly?

Not sure why i did this but i did do it right before my problem. I moved my post processor in and out of different folders in an effort to only have the shopbot arcs inch PP in aspire. i have now moved all pp back into PostP folder. It does not make sense but could i have damaged the PP during these moves?

[adrianm]

The Post Processors are checked each time Aspire/VCarve starts so if there was an error it would show up straight away.

Which version of Aspire/VCarve are you using?

With the latest versions you don't need to copy all the Post Processors out. You just create a folder called My_PostP in the Application Data area (from the file menu) and put the Post Processor you want to use in there and restart.

[srwtlc]

Reset is for engaging the drivers when you turn the control box on. Perhaps you're thinking of 'Resetting the defaults' for your machine. This being all the values and settings back to factory defaults. I can't see any of those as the culprit.

You could just direct plug the router in to get this job done and trouble shoot the connection when things are less critical. You run a lot of long run time 3D files, how are the brushes in your router?

The last few 3.8.XX versions have been quite troublesome for me, YMMV.

[cowboy1296]

I am using aspire 3.5. I know that there will be an update soon and when the new one comes out i will buy it. I know that i get upgrades for a year but i am still going to wait.

On my way to change the brushes right now.

The router ran fine using the SO 1 command and plugged straight into an extension. I am going to look into the box and blow it out again.

I saw several posts regarding a reset button but never knew if there was one and if there was, where was it.

[steve_g]

Rick…
Any chance you changed the bit number?
SG

[cowboy1296]

I dont have a tool changer so i dont that is an issue. A few years back i was accidentally using the tool changer post processor and then i had my bits numbered. Then i found out my mistake. Just changed my brushes and about to do another file in the next few minutes and will know then how its working.

[cowboy1296]

It appears that i am up and running but i dont know why. The brushes were about 60 percent worn and normally i take them down more than that. But remember the router was starting when it was directly plugged into an extension cord. But when i was replacing them i found that my grounding wire on one brush was somewhat loose. Still dont think that was the issue.

I ran the router into all stops and they worked perfectly.

I used a leaf blower to blow out the control box. Dont know how so much saw dust got in there, see comment below about gremlins.

I have run one tool path successfully and have started the second.

I think perhaps that i had gremlins in my garage messing with me.

Thanks to everyone for your comments, i thought for sure that something was broken.

[cowboy1296]

I was 90 percent through roughing and i started missing steps and destroyed a fifty dollar piece of wood. this has nothing to do with my prior issues. my bit could have been sharper and i was pushing it a little hard.

[cowboy1296]

I finished my 3-d plaque just fine, turned key off, changed bits, loaded tool path for v carving and the router did not come on. I played with the key, so-1 command and finally up and running again. Next tool path did not call for changing bits so i never turned the key off. The router ran fine. Now i am thinking the switch. Has anyone ever replaced one and i have to assume that they come from shopbot.