Wish i had a machine like this

[paul60]

http://info.thermwood.com/get-hands-on-experience-with-the-thermwood-cut-center-at-awfs-2015

[Davo]

Noticed it flips sheets for you - I assume I would save $20,000 for that one feature doing it by hand

Wonder what the total cost of that machine is

[willnewton]

Would be cooler if it did all the accounting, marketing, management, and deliveries too. Shopbot seems to have nailed down the machining part, now they need a robot that handles all the other tasks in the shop. :D

[Mark Farris]

Looked at it last year in Atlanta, If I remember correctly it started around $165,000. It's set up to take all the fun out of CNC.

Mark

[bleeth]

If I were producing enough cabinets (and could find the employees to handle the load) to justify that machines cost I would do it in a heartbeat and forget retiring!
For fun I'd keep the bot or buy a smaller footprint one.

[coryatjohn]

How much motivation does such a machine provide?

[paul60]

I give Thermwood a call cost 135 grand just was curious

[bleeth]

On motivation: No-one sane buys a machine like that without an established business. I would bet strong that each one sold is a replacement or added machine for a company that is already selling at the very least well over a million a year worth of product. How do I know? Because before I downsized I sold a million a year and got it out with my SB, sliding saw, edgebander, and misc small equipment with an average production staff of 5 and install crew of 2.

[myxpykalix]

Although this is extremely cool, at that price even if you are pumping cabinets out it seems to me you are just "chasing your tail" and working to pay the banknotes every month.

[knight_toolworks]

with that kind of machine you have so much speed you are ripping sheets in high production mode. I needed one when I had a quote for 1000 sheets a month.

[jerry_stanek]

Although this is extremely cool, at that price even if you are pumping cabinets out it seems to me you are just "chasing your tail" and working to pay the banknotes every month.

If you have the jobs to justify a machine like that it is a cheap solution even at a $145,000 wouldn't take long to pay it off.

[Ajcoholic]

If I were doing just cabinets - and like the other shop in town approx two kitchens (melamine with bought in doors etc) my whole business would be centered around a larger CNC router.

Heck, I have at least a few hundred grand in machinery I've bought since 2010... But for general woodwork you need a lot of basic machinery ( I have about 21 or 22 machines) vs one CNC and an edge bander.

When you look at the fact that even basic industrial machines like a planer, wide belt sander or sliding panel saw are in the ten to 40 grand range, one machine that can replace several - provided you are making the product it is designed to excel at - for $140K isn't all that much.

If you can replace two employees with it you're already ahead in the first year to two.

[Ajcoholic]

I know people driving $80k blinged out trucks. I'd rather drive my 09 which is paid off, for several more years and invest that $$ into a machine that can make money. :)

[Ger21]

As someone with almost 20 years of big iron experience, Imo, this is not a high production machine.
It appears to be targeted to people with little to no previous software or cnc experience. It promises the moon, but I can't see how it can deliver.
One of the selling points is all the different mouldings it can make?? If you're making mouldings on a $100K+ CNC, then you're not making money.

And they already have every cabinet in their software, with every possible construction method? As well as a ton of other things?
Then they should be in the software business, as that would imply that their software is better than all the other major cabinet packages costing $20K +.