Brady Watson
02-25-2018, 10:03 AM
I have 2 control boxes for sale. Both are in 100% working condition. Both in storage for many years. I've taken them apart and cleaned them, tested all the critical components and tuned them (4G) for maximum speed and smoothness using SB originally equipped motors.
3rd Generation PRT Control System:
The 3G is my original control box from 2001. It has been preserved in a storage tote since 2005. All 5 drivers are perfect & have never been blown or replaced. Power supplies are in great shape still putting out 5,12 and 44v as expected. (48v PS is detuned from SB in order to account for back EMF when decellerating so you don't over volt a motor drive)
See the 3G box with 5 motors hooked up (X1, X2, Y, Z, B) running on an i5 3.4GHz 8GB RAM Win7 Pro computer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96CMrk19RYw
These old control boxes in good running condition are getting to be rare as hens teeth. FYI - These boxes can run SB2.39 in DOS or up to v3.4.27 in Windows. The computer shown in the demonstration is running v3.4.27 AND it has a serial port on the motherboard - so it hooks right up using a serial cable with no converter & works perfectly. A USB to serial converter can also be used on another computer if it doesn't have a serial.
The 3G control box is listed at $750 + shipping. If you want the computer for a turn-key solution, add $400.
In case it isn't obvious, this box can be used to upgrade a PR control (using unipolar or IMS drives) to 3G or as a spare/replacement for a clapped out early PRT system. If you plan to use it to upgrade a PR - let me know when you purchase & I will include special wiring instructions for your motors. If you don't rewire the motors when going from PR to PRT controls, you'll wipe out the drivers.
The box is in VERY good condition. There is a small screw covering up where the voltage divider knob was for my plasma cutter setup because that looks better than a 10mm hole...
4th Generation PRT Control System:
The 4G is from around 2006-2007. It is a complete control box from SB, not a 3G to 4G upgrade since it has a v204 controller (direct USB not USB to Serial converted) and a 63v toroid power supply compared to the 3G 48v power supply. The higher voltage permits higher speeds and a wider power band. This box came off of a BT32 and only had 3 drives. I bought 2 more G203v drives ($150 each) to populate the other 2 slots.
This box has 5 Gecko G203v 'vampire drives', which are way better in terms of durability than early 4G boxes with the black G202s. 5 drives will allow you to run X1, X2, Y, Z, B or X1, X2, Y, Z, A (2nd Z) - or a Benchtop/Buddy Standard 32/48 with a spare drive.
I've taken the liberty to tune out most of the mid-band resonance inherent with the Vexta motors at certain speeds. You can see the box setup and running full tilt here (it totally rips, by the way): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiiQQrxyUYo This is running on the same computer as the 3G, except running USB directly. This computer was just refurbished with new install of Win7 Pro, all the updates and wiped clean of any nonsense that would interfere with CNC work. If you have COM problems and want something that 'just works' this is the setup for you.
I'm listing the 4G box @ $1495 + shipping. Add $400 if you want the PC shown. (no kb, mouse or monitor add your own) FYI, the cost for just a 4G board and nothing else from SB back in 2005 was $1795 or $1495 with old control card trade in. The 4G is no longer available from SB, which is a shame because it is a nice setup. I think the only upgrade option right now is a complete RBK control which will run you about $3000 or so...and the performance is no better than a 4G in my experience. This control box is compatible with any SB Tool from PR, PRT (including Benchtop) and Early PRS Standard. There are no provisions in either box for spindle control, but you could add it if you wanted. If you plan to run this on a PR, let me know because you will have to change some wires around at the motors.
(FYI - each control box includes the ShopBot software licence/control card a $345 value - no trade in required) The case is in good shape, but does have some dings and dents here an there.
For those that like to tinker...the 4G can be used to run other motor & drive combinations as well. You aren't stuck running the SB motors...I can give you details about this upon purchase, if interested.
PM or email if interested.
Thanks!
-B
3rd Generation PRT Control System:
The 3G is my original control box from 2001. It has been preserved in a storage tote since 2005. All 5 drivers are perfect & have never been blown or replaced. Power supplies are in great shape still putting out 5,12 and 44v as expected. (48v PS is detuned from SB in order to account for back EMF when decellerating so you don't over volt a motor drive)
See the 3G box with 5 motors hooked up (X1, X2, Y, Z, B) running on an i5 3.4GHz 8GB RAM Win7 Pro computer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96CMrk19RYw
These old control boxes in good running condition are getting to be rare as hens teeth. FYI - These boxes can run SB2.39 in DOS or up to v3.4.27 in Windows. The computer shown in the demonstration is running v3.4.27 AND it has a serial port on the motherboard - so it hooks right up using a serial cable with no converter & works perfectly. A USB to serial converter can also be used on another computer if it doesn't have a serial.
The 3G control box is listed at $750 + shipping. If you want the computer for a turn-key solution, add $400.
In case it isn't obvious, this box can be used to upgrade a PR control (using unipolar or IMS drives) to 3G or as a spare/replacement for a clapped out early PRT system. If you plan to use it to upgrade a PR - let me know when you purchase & I will include special wiring instructions for your motors. If you don't rewire the motors when going from PR to PRT controls, you'll wipe out the drivers.
The box is in VERY good condition. There is a small screw covering up where the voltage divider knob was for my plasma cutter setup because that looks better than a 10mm hole...
4th Generation PRT Control System:
The 4G is from around 2006-2007. It is a complete control box from SB, not a 3G to 4G upgrade since it has a v204 controller (direct USB not USB to Serial converted) and a 63v toroid power supply compared to the 3G 48v power supply. The higher voltage permits higher speeds and a wider power band. This box came off of a BT32 and only had 3 drives. I bought 2 more G203v drives ($150 each) to populate the other 2 slots.
This box has 5 Gecko G203v 'vampire drives', which are way better in terms of durability than early 4G boxes with the black G202s. 5 drives will allow you to run X1, X2, Y, Z, B or X1, X2, Y, Z, A (2nd Z) - or a Benchtop/Buddy Standard 32/48 with a spare drive.
I've taken the liberty to tune out most of the mid-band resonance inherent with the Vexta motors at certain speeds. You can see the box setup and running full tilt here (it totally rips, by the way): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiiQQrxyUYo This is running on the same computer as the 3G, except running USB directly. This computer was just refurbished with new install of Win7 Pro, all the updates and wiped clean of any nonsense that would interfere with CNC work. If you have COM problems and want something that 'just works' this is the setup for you.
I'm listing the 4G box @ $1495 + shipping. Add $400 if you want the PC shown. (no kb, mouse or monitor add your own) FYI, the cost for just a 4G board and nothing else from SB back in 2005 was $1795 or $1495 with old control card trade in. The 4G is no longer available from SB, which is a shame because it is a nice setup. I think the only upgrade option right now is a complete RBK control which will run you about $3000 or so...and the performance is no better than a 4G in my experience. This control box is compatible with any SB Tool from PR, PRT (including Benchtop) and Early PRS Standard. There are no provisions in either box for spindle control, but you could add it if you wanted. If you plan to run this on a PR, let me know because you will have to change some wires around at the motors.
(FYI - each control box includes the ShopBot software licence/control card a $345 value - no trade in required) The case is in good shape, but does have some dings and dents here an there.
For those that like to tinker...the 4G can be used to run other motor & drive combinations as well. You aren't stuck running the SB motors...I can give you details about this upon purchase, if interested.
PM or email if interested.
Thanks!
-B