Why you never throw away even your mistakes

[myxpykalix]

I had a problem with my indexer where it made a weird taper on a column as you see in upper left.

I never throw anything away. However when making my hollow spirals if you don't get your centers lined up it shows when you hollow it out.

So i saw this mistake cut the end off and pushed it in to the end and clamped the piece together (upper right).

And the results (lower center). Just don't foget and leave it in or you won't be getting it out.



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Which leads me to this question. I sometimes use too much glue as you see in this pic. It is about 30 in long. Does anyone have a tip on how i can clean the glue out of the center before i cut into it?

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[dubliner]

How about an appropriately sized Forstner style bit welded to a rod and turned slowly with a hand drill?

[gpari]

Ever done any shotgun cleaning?? Get a rod and a wet rag, shove it thru will the glue is still wet.

[ed_lang]

Don't use so much glue. Roll it out with a small paint roller so you get proper coverage, but not so much squeeze out. Gabe Pari has a good suggestion. I am not sure how you will get the Forstener bit to go since you didn't drill the hole with it to start with and they need the center to hold the bit while drilling. Rather than welding, use the bit extensions Lowes has.

If it were me, I think I would use a solid wood blank or glue one up and then drill the hole.

Or if you were going to make many of these things, I would get the forstener bit, find a bearing that fits the shank and then PVC pipe or something that the bearing would fit into and the outside of the pipe would be the same or slightly smaller than the bit. Then you would have the ability to cut a hold and keep the bit centered in the existing hole as it went deeper. Chips could escape via the pipe.

Just thinking out loud.

[waynelocke]

If I understand right you are just removing the center of the turning. If that is the case why worry about it. Won't it just disappear in the final turning.

[myxpykalix]

Hi Wayne...no i take a 2" core box bit and run down the center creating the opening then cut it in two and glue it like you see. Then turn it round, then rope spiral it. Then i run a straight bit in the valley of the rope spiral till i reach the center thus creating the hollow spiral.

The problem is if you can visualize the last picture from the inside you will see the excess glue on the inside of the "rings" and its better to get rid of it now while its more stable.

I was thinking about some type of stiff wire brush like a battery terminal cleaner that has a round top that i could attach to a long shaft and spin maybe.

[gabepari]

It's a whole lot easier to get rid of excess glue while it is still wet. I think you already know that though

[myxpykalix]

The solution...a driver extender and a 1" wire brush.

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[harryball]

I would just train termites to eat glue instead of wood. :-)

Does that wire brush have enough force to remove dried glue? I was thinking a small flap sander wheel with 80 or 60 grit used in a similar fashion might do the trick. Or even a large paddle bit to ream it out.

/RB

[gpari]

So gluing up another blank isn't an option?

[myxpykalix]

Gabe..gluing up another is an option but this gave me an excuse to buy another tool! Don't you see how that works? lol.

Plus i like to take the grandkids to lowes to ride on the "tippycarts", so we make it a big deal, thats part of the fun.

Harry...does this answer your question?

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It took about 2 minutes to do. It worked better than i thought it would. My hole was only about 1.5" so my options were limited. If this hadn't worked I had bought a regular 2" wire wheel and was prepared to trim it down to fit if need be. It only cost about $10.00 for this fix.

Ed...Here was my problem. The applicator on my small bottle of glue broke and the glue hardened up so i was trying to pour out some from the gallon bottle. I guess you can figure out what happened. You have a good idea, i'm going to look for one of those roller applicator bottles i've seen Norm use.
It was late and i just clamped it up and didn't think about it till the next day...oops!

[gabepari]

Looks great. I would have bet money against the wire brush, good thing I don't go to Vegas


I totally understand the trips to the box store with the youngin's. My 2 and 6 year olds love riding the carts as well.

[harryball]

Excuse to buy tools... I'll take that any day of the week. I too would have bet against the wire brush but I can't argue with the results.

My kids are now old enough to PUSH the carts, they argue over who gets to push next... I just smile and let them push. ;-)

/RB

[knight_toolworks]

if I did not throw away my mistakes I could not get into my shop (G)

[bleeth]

Try one of these: http://www.toolbarn.com/product/bosch/HC6521/

You can get them cheaper-I've used them much in Boat building for bolt holes through keels and rudder and engine shaft holes.

[myxpykalix]

Harry,
If you haven't figured it out yet, this is training for them as soon enough they will be pushing US!