Adhesive for door plaques

[brucehiggins]

I have to attach 17 door plaques (4" x 12" x 1/2" maple) to the finished wood doors at an Inn/Bed & Breakfast using some kind of adhesive. What would work well and not stink too much (they are open for business)? I thought of using selicon sealant or construction adhesive and wonder if I woud have to hold them in place with tape while it sets up. Any ideas?
Bruce

[dubliner]

Bruce, double stick 3M tape is very strong & available at Lowes. I stuck a very large headboard against the wall with 2 x 1 inch square pieces and 2 wireless doorbels in the Texas sun a year ago.

[coach]

Bruce,
How about a few dabs of hot melt glue along with your choice of either silicon or construction adhesive?

[chodges]

We use double-sided foam tape from 3M that we get from Tubelite Co. (their item #4016-1). Typically, we run a full-length strip down each side of the back (about 1/4" in from the edges), and we also put a generous circle of Silicone in the middle. The foam tape will hold until the Silicone sets.

You might also want to know that the Americans with Disabilities Act ("ADA") prohibits installing signs on doors. Sight-impaired people can't find the braille if the doors are propped open. Specifically, ADA requires that signs be installed on the wall adjacent to the latch side of single-hung doors, with the centerline of the sign 60" above the finished floor.

Hope this helps!

[brucehiggins]

I got some of the Scotch/3M Indoor/Outdoor mounting tape from Home Depot. Looks like it will work and I will put the silicon in the middle. That's interesting about the ADA rule - I will let the Inn owners know before mounting the signs.
Thanks for the great feedback!
Bruce

[kfitz]

Although "prohibits" is perhaps a little strong, Charlie is essentially correct. Here are the guidelines: http://www.access-board.gov/adaag/about/guide.htm#sign

[chodges]

For what its worth, "Prohibits" is the correct word to use here. The document Kevin sited is an interpretation of the ADA law. The actual language of this section of the law itself (as found at http://www.ada.gov/reg3a.html#anchor43) is where Section 4.30.6 Mounting Location and Height reads "Where permanent identification is provided for rooms and spaces, signs shall be installed on the wall adjacent to the latch side of the door." The word "shall" makes this a manditory provision. Therefore, alternate sign placement options which are not in compliance with this section (such as putting signs on doors) are prohibited.

[beacon14]

Just out of curiosity can you mount an old-fashioned sign on the door if you also put a braille plaque in the proscribed place?

[chodges]

David;

I am not aware of any provisions in the ADA law that would stop you from doing this. If you read the section on signs (which is surprisingly brief), you get the impression that the authors were not trying to cover any "additional" signs, but they were instead trying to define the requirements for the particular signs intended to accommodate people with disabilities.

I am not an attorney, but I do own a large sign company and we try to do our best to know what the ADA requires us to do.

Sometimes, there is a bit of irony in a literal interpretation of the ADA law. For example, have you ever noticed that drive-up ATM machines have braille on the buttons?

Hope this helps!

[bleeth]

David: Yes

[jerry_stanek]

Sometimes, there is a bit of irony in a literal interpretation of the ADA law. For example, have you ever noticed that drive-up ATM machines have braille on the buttons?


What are you saying that blind people can't drive.

[chodges]

My notion is that the ADA provisions regarding signs were more intended to help sight-impaired people than totally blind people. Maybe that's why the ADA prescribes the size of characters to be used on signs - a totally blind person wouldn't be able to benefit from this requirement.

There are other quirks in the ADA law regarding signs that most people not in the sign business are not aware of, but this may be another topic for another day.

[beacon14]

I've heard two explanations for the braille on drive-up ATMs. One is that apparantly it's not that unusual for a sight-impaired person to take a taxi to the bank and use the drive through ATM from the back seat. The one I believe though is that it's not worth it to the ATM manufacturer to make two different types of buttons.

[chodges]

David, you are probably correct. A third option is that ATM manufacturers are covering all the bases just to be sure.

Kinda' like when you go to the Emergency Room with a cut foot - you are going to get a chest X-ray anyway.

[keith_outten]

Using half inch thick material you can machine a keyhole in the back and hang it with a screw. I normally use two keyholes and two screws for hanging ADA door signs.

[magic]

I guess i have to go move a lot of signs, now