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Brady Watson
02-23-2008, 01:03 PM
I wanted to post some pics of one of my recent commissions - A 72" diameter brass floor inlay for Christopher Newport University in Newport News, VA. Since the design was 72" in diameter, I had to machine it in 2 equal halves. Here you see the 1st sheet of brass laid up on the Bot. It weighs approximately 640 lbs and is about 72X36" and 0.500" thick.


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Since the Bot wasn't really designed to handle this much weight on it's table, I used a hydraulic lift table and a 2 X 3 X 0.375" piece of steel tubing to help take the weight.


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After checking myself & my SBP file 47 times, I started cutting. At 1st I used a 2-flute HSS end mill and compressed air cooling, but the brass pretty much laughed at that about one foot into the cutting. I wound up using a 4-flute titanium-coated end mill to do the cutting. No cooling or lube needed. By the way, anyone who tells you something along the lines of, "Aww...brass is soft...that cuts easy!" - has obviously never machined it before! Of coarse, it depends greatly on what alloy of brass we are talking about, as they vary significantly. Compared to machining brass, aluminum is a walk in the park. This is naval brass & despite what you may think (as I did), it doesn't come 'all pretty' at this scale. (More on this later)


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Here's the 1st half-ring machined. In hindsight I should have finished the surface before cutting it out.


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...and here's the 2nd sheet - which was sitting under protective cardboard, underneath the 1st sheet. Little did I know just how much the surface would oxidize. One man's rust is another's patina...this was the 1st time I wanted to throw myself in the wood chipper...The pits were between 0.003" and 0.006" deep...which is a lot on a large piece of metal. Not even a belt sander could get out the pits...I had to use a 4" angle grinder to get them out, then...


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...go over the entire thing with the belt sander to flatten it out...then orbital sand from 40# all the way up to 600# paper. To answer your question, NO that isn't 'Birdseye brass'



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Here's the result after many long days of sanding.


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Getting ready to machine the 2nd half of the ring...


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OK...a little explanation. This is the 2nd time where I was thinking about throwing myself into a wood chipper. On the last pass of cutting out the 2nd half, the part popped up on the inside track of the arc a full 3/16" ! NOW WHAT!!!??? Luckily I have friends that are even more willful and tenacious than I am...so after a few hours of head scratching and a little welding, we made a tool to tweak the brass back down flat. The vertical stud you see is counteracting us lifting the one side of the brass about 2 feet in the air! It really took a lot of tweaking to get it flat, but in the end it all worked out...and it was a reminder as to how important good friends really are!


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OK...back to machining. Letters were pocketed out about 1/4" deep using a 1/4, 1/8 & 1/16" end mill and ArtCAM Pro 2008 with Area Clear Rest Machining. All tool entries were ramped into the cut on an angle to minimize shock to the cutter & spindle and stepdown values were kept very low. This was a very challenging project and I had to tweak the VR values of the tool to get it set up to satisfy the needs of cutting dense metal - without throwing the tool into Alpha mode.


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Here you can see the letters have been over-filled with resin. They will be sanded flat before clear coating. The brass had to be pre-heated to 100°F, filled, the resin had to cure on it's own and then post-cured @ 150° for 5 hours to reach maximum hardness and durability. You can see part of the heatbox/oven in the background.


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Here's a shot of both pieces at the finisher's before crating them up. Brass is funny...it looks completely different at each part you view as you walk around it.


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Delivery time...The big guns from WM Jordan unloaded the brass from my truck at the CNU Library, where the brass will be installed.


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Keith Outten and I discuss installation, while Megan takes a candid shot.


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Here are the 2 halves sitting in the staging area until the stone masons install them in a few weeks. I can't wait to see the final result!


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Overall this was a challenging project, but all in all, a real pleasure to do. To see the looks on people's faces when the crates were popped open was the real reward for me. I'm flattered to have been given this opportunity to come through for CNU, and look forward to the next exciting project that heads my way.

-B

bill1
02-23-2008, 01:22 PM
Brady,
Excellent work very nice and well done.
Bill.

brucehiggins
02-23-2008, 01:36 PM
Wow! Talk about rising to a challenge. Very impressive. I would have never thought you could do that on a ShopBot.

robert_cheal
02-23-2008, 01:43 PM
I always love it when us existing or potential Botters ask what can be done on a Bot and someone like Brady demonstrates that is what ever you put your mind to. Awesome job!

Robert

henrik_o
02-23-2008, 01:55 PM
Wow!

Stellar work, as one has come to expect from your hands and mind.

Since we did a major work entirely in brass some time ago, I can totally relate to your pains. It really is an odd alloy. It took quite some time to get just the right mix of speeds (feed and rotational) but once you get there it really machines beautifully -- I wasted a couple of bits on the first few parts due to them becoming dull right away, but once the right combination arrived the entire job, over seventy parts most of whom involved serious machining (creating a parabol 3D shape) were done with two bits and they weren't appreciably dull after all of that.

What epoxy did you use?

butch
02-23-2008, 05:41 PM
Brady
That is just fantastic. I had never saw that process before so this was amazing and assume as well as educational.

Thanks
Butch

fleinbach
02-23-2008, 05:56 PM
Brady,

Incredible work as always. You certainly are the best at unique materials cut with the Shopbot. I would say this has earned you the title wel deserved title of "Mr. Shopbot"

Congratulations!

ryan_slaback
02-23-2008, 06:15 PM
Brady, I would have been truly impressed had you rigged up an orbital sander to take the place of your spindle and used that to sand down the brass. Maybe next time.

rob_bell
02-24-2008, 02:30 AM
Outstanding work and very inspirational.
Thanks for sharing.

-Rob Bell

gene
02-24-2008, 04:10 AM
Just for curiosity sakes What did the job sell for ?
I have no idea what .5 " brass sheets cost Please post pics of the finished installation

beacon14
02-24-2008, 10:11 AM
Funny how the tedium and frustration of "days of sanding" and wanting to throw yourself into the chipper seem to melt away when the cover comes off the crate and the client sees the finished product. Brady you are rightly proud to have executed that project - truly a job which you will be happy for people to walk all over for years to come.

mindlesspappy
02-24-2008, 11:06 AM
Brady,
I am truly impressed with your work and that of the bot also. Just curious, what did you settle on as far as feeds, speeds, and depth-of-cut?

curtiss
02-24-2008, 01:10 PM
Dumb questions below ...

1) So you had how much of the 640 pounds left over ??

2) If you made a mistake, could you have flipped the ring over to try again on the other side ??

nice work

harryball
02-24-2008, 07:29 PM
Very nice! We also must shop at the same place, I have the exact same hydraulic cart.

I can't wait to see all the projects you complete with the leftover materials.

/RB

tkovacs
02-24-2008, 07:50 PM
Wow - inspiring indeed!

I guess using the bot to surface the material instead of sanding would have left nasty toolmarks?

Terry

frankwilliams
02-24-2008, 08:03 PM
A real Masterpiece! I love seeing this kind of stuff on the forum, it always inspires me to see what a real craftsman can achieve. Thanks for posting the storyboard of this creation. Its always cool to see the evolution of a piece including the "bumps" along the way. Makes me appreciate the process even more!

Brady Watson
02-25-2008, 02:30 AM
Thanks for all of the kind responses! I've been away in NY setting up the very 1st vacuum system on a Buddy (BT32)...I've got a few tweaks to do before it is ready for prime time...I'm defintely ready for a vacation! (a stay at home one!)


I have a couple hunks of metal left over, but a few were used for testing the resin, overall finish etc, some were given away in thanks to those who either assisted me on the project or were otherwise involved. I have a few pieces here to monkey with when I find a project worthy of them. I'm sure they would make a nice clock or other heirloom item, when the time is right.

To answer a few tech questions, in general, I restricted the stepdown to about .015" per pass, and ran about .3 to 1.2 IPS depending on the size of the cutter and the area being cut out. At several thousand dollars per sheet, I chose to be on the conservative side & take a little more time to make sure that I didn't ask the Bot to do more than it was really designed for. I would bet that there are very few shops around that would have routed out this project...There were a lot of little behind the scenes tweaks that needed to be done in order to be successful. The sheer scale and weight of this project presented some challenges. You see one hydraulic cart in the pic above...I had to buy 3 of them to be able to move things around and bolster the Bot to handle the weight. I also had to make a table to go on top of the cart that would acomodate the 3X6 foot size of these parts. You'll also see a PVC tube that I slit down the middle to protect the front X rail from damage & damaging the brass when getting parts on & off the table. Big Bertha is a 5X16' machine...and I can't load it from the end of the table...so over the rails I go.

What was really tough about cutting the metal was that the sounds were very different from other materials, even other metals. When cutting aluminum, you get a humming sound, which is pretty typical when you machine thick bars of the stuff. The brass was completely different. While I learned to listen for specific sounds while machining, they were very different from aluminum. Ear and eye protection were absolutely 100% necessary at all times. I'd rather look like a racoon for a few hours than have to have brass splinters removed from my eyeballs...wanna feel something really nasty? wipe chips off the table with your bare hands...I didn't think that anything was worse than carbon fiber splinters in terms of pain...I was wrong. Anyway...so the sound was very different, and my nerves were pretty well shot after each cutting session - if for no other reason than this job commanded a very attentive operator...No drink and snack breaks while the tool was running. (not that I really do much of that anyway...) But...I really had to observe each cut and make sure that everything was going OK, at every turn of the bit and every stepdown. The amount of force required to cut this alloy of brass, meant that there was a high chance that I could push the tool too hard or too fast & lose position - which was something that I really didn't want to have happen. Needless to say, it took just a wee bit longer to cut than if it were made out of sign foam!

OK...off to bed. I'll try to answer more questions later & feel free to ask questions as needed.

While it's nice to get appreciation from the group, I posted this to inspire others. Sometimes you don't realize how big you can really be when the time calls for it. I put my pants on just like you guys...and as Anthony Hopkin's character in the movie The Edge says, "What one man can do, another can do" - if you have enough desire and you believe in yourself...

-B

scottcox
02-25-2008, 08:09 PM
Outstanding stuff as usual, Brady!

You really know how to raise the bar. Thanks for the inspiration!

drodda
02-26-2008, 08:07 PM
In Brady's life there are no Bars, Brady used his bot to cut them up long ago.

Nice work Brady, once again you have proven why I HATE you!!!!!!!!!!

bcammack
02-27-2008, 12:08 PM
Beautiful work, Brady.

Question: Was there a compelling reason to do the detail carving *after* cutting out the half-rings? Seems like doing the detail carving first would've allowed you to avoid any negative repercussions of that one half springing when cut out.

I can't recall. Do you have a waterjet yet? If not, you'd have a ball with it.

Brady Watson
02-27-2008, 01:00 PM
Thanks Dave - I hate you too!


Brett, thanks. I wanted to make sure that the top surface of the brass was perfectly sanded before engraving the letters. Otherwise, I would have receded the boundaries of the letters with the rubber pad on the orbital sander. Aside from this, it wouldn't have mattered which way it was machined. I just chose to do it that way.

No...no waterjet. I used to have a ShopBot plasma cutter, but as business leaned more towards routing, I gave it up. Waterjet is neat, but like plasma it puts a bevel on the parts. I was going to have the company I bought the brass from cut the arcs out, but I didn't for 2 reasons: 1) The edge quality was not as crisp as I liked, seeing their scrap near the machine and 2) Their WJ machine was broken...again! I thought about buying a WJ before, but the abrasive media is expensive, running 80HP intensifier pumps is expensive and maintenance is a pain...I'll let somebody else do all of that!

-B

henrik_o
04-04-2008, 04:10 AM
Excellent writeup (http://www.artcam.com/quarterly/2008/spring/cs_iBILD2.htm) about this project in the latest issue of ArtCam Quarterly!